Question about using an HD TV for melee

[FuzzyFighter]

I have an HD tv with the red/white/yellow ports on the side, and I heard it was best to use an old tv for melee, why is this? Wouldn't it still work fine with the ports?

 

[Kadano]

In an old CRT, the electrons that pass through the video cable leads just run through hardly more than a couple of amplifying coils, until they are shot onto the screen's phosphor cells, where they generate the light of the corresponding frame just some 700 nanoseconds* afterwards.

On an LCD, these analog signals are first digitized, then analyzed, then processed and deinterlaced, then scaled, then applied to the comparatively extremely sluggish liquid crystal arrays, for a total delay between video input and corresponding light output of 5-50 milliseconds. Which is, at the least, a couple thousand times longer than with the CRT.

*Some, especially the early 2000 era, CRT TVs with "HD" features have digital processing that lags too. And even some of the older CRT TVs reportedly have lag, but probably just in the low or sub millisecond range.

 

[FuzzyFighter]

Any way to eliminate the lag, a possible adapter or something?

 

[Uchihadark7]

Any way to eliminate the lag, a possible adapter or something?

I play on a brand new samsung with Wii component cables (5 inputs, instead of the yellow, red and white). I haven't had lag.

 

[FuzzyFighter]

I play on a brand new samsung with Wii component cables (5 inputs, instead of the yellow, red and white). I haven't had lag.

Any tutorial on how to do this?

 

[Uchihadark7]

Any tutorial on how to do this?

Well do you have component ports on your TV?

 

[Kadano]

Component cables do not require comb filtering, which eliminates a good portion of the lag you are probably experiencing. Additionally, if you use them with the Wii in 480p mode (which you should), you will also eliminate the lag from deinterlacing.

The part of the lag that stems from digitizing, upscaling and liquid crystal response time will, however, remain. It can only be eliminated by exchanging your TV.

 

[FuzzyFighter]

Well do you have component ports on your TV?

I think, there are 3 on the side for a video 2 input, and i see many more in 2 rows on the very back of the tv. (Sorry for non-technical terms)

 

[Kadano]

Component ports have three separate RCA female connectors that are colored green, red and blue.

 

[FuzzyFighter]

Component ports have three separate RCA female connectors that are colored green, red and blue.

Any specific location on tvs? Like on the side or back? Or is it different between models.

 

[Kadano]

On the back usually. But it shouldn't be too hard to find them, really.

Also look for any "component video" or "YPbPr" texts. Some TVs have breakout cables for YPbPr video input.

 

[Uchihadark7]

Any specific location on tvs? Like on the side or back? Or is it different between models.

Mine were on the back, but here's what they look like: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UDi7cOhJ--/17j5zn5i361sejpg.jpg

 

[FuzzyFighter]

Thanks, I found the ports. Probably the last thing: Did those wii component cables come with the wii, or were they bought separately? And Is there a specific way to put it 480p mode? Thanks for answering all my questions by the way, you guys are great

 

[Uchihadark7]

Thanks, I found the ports. Probably the last thing: Did those wii component cables come with the wii, or were they bought separately? And Is there a specific way to put it 480p mode? Thanks for answering all my questions by the way, you guys are great

You can order them, but I got mine at Best Buy.