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Question about dittos

XLAX_OVERDOSAGE

Smash Apprentice
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How come they were made in a laboratory?! Just kidding.

My real question is: How does a ditto match between 2 players not necessarily indicate who's the better player?
I've heard this spoken about many times, but I never understood how this.

I appreciate any corrections/clarifications.
 

The Soap

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East Brunswick, NJ
Because dittos are only one specific matchup. Someone who's more well-versed in the ditto isn't inherently better than someone who isn't as strong at it.
 

Walbytamer11

Smash Apprentice
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Jan 8, 2012
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Danbury, CT
Hard to put into words. Simply, dittos in my opinion are JANK.

Puff vs Puff? A snorefest. I guess it can test spacing but it's more of a test to try your patience more than anything lol.
Fox vs Fox? A "how much can you convert off of an uthrow" fest
Falco vs Falco? Okay...that one's pretty cool

A ditto, in my opinion, is quite unlike learning the matchups for characters different from your own.

You're gonna need to completely revamp your playstyle for the safest bet and maybe it's just my bias, but there's definitely a reason I main two characters. I pretty much use my secondary (Falco) just to deal with my main because I hate the Fox ditto lol.

There's also that whole thing about 20 or so other characters, where you're really tested as a player to adapt to more situations rather than a preset flow chart that is seen in dittos.
 

SAUS

Smash Ace
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A ditto is just another matchup. At more intermediate levels, players will have more varying results in different matchups (lack of knowledge of the matchup and stuff like that come into play). If I main fox but never play against other fox players, how am I supposed to know the matchup? Knowing a character's moves helps (you will know your own character's moves), but it still won't make you good at the matchup.

At higher levels, when players are more well-rounded, matchups matter less, but it's still the same thing there. It's just more obvious at lower levels because the difference can be quite obvious.

There's also just players that beat other players. Sometimes you play someone so much that they go even with you, but then you both play against random other people and one of you performs way better. Then there are cases where your just not used to how your opponent plays (super campy, for example), so you lose because you are unfamiliar with what you are playing against.

The way it is usually measured is placement across many recent tournaments. This way, it measures their overall skill against many opponents. It could still easily be inaccurate, but it is one of the best measures there is.
 
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