Punishing rolls as Ivysaur?

[TheObsoletecomputer]

I have a friend I play against quite often who likes to spam rolls, and I'm starting to get tired of it. I know rolls are supposed to be very punishable but sometimes he'll roll all the way from one side of a stage to the other and there's nothing I can do about it. He plays a really sloppy Jiggly that I lose to only for this reason, and although he rolls a lot less with his other characters Wolf and Lucario, it still gives me a hard time. What can I do as Ivy to punish rolls?

 

[Saproling]

Just razor leaf the rolls and you will get a few percent while staying safe theres a lot more you can do being faster on the ground but practice that for now.

 

[TheObsoletecomputer]

I don't have a problem using wavedashes/lands, dashdances, moonwalks, etc., I just can't seem to figure out how to stop someone who does The razor leaf thing is okay but a lot of the time they can just roll through it because it's so slow. It's basically my go to move but it's not a very big punish. Thanks for the reply

 

[Anuran]

literally don't approach. Jigglys run speed is ****so she has to approach via the air. ^B or bair. >prohit

 

[Swann]

The razor leaf thing is okay but a lot of the time they can just roll through it because it's so slow.

What @ Saproling means is that you need to put a razor leaf in the place that your friend is going to end up, if he rolls. Razor leaf lingers for a significant amount of time, and if somebody rolls into a razor leaf, you can typically get a free dtilt or grab.

If your friend is rolling behind you, just dsmash for now.

Are you trying to desperately hit him with dash attack or something? Because honestly you can probably just walk around and dtilt wherever he rolls, since Ivy's dtilt has so much range and comes out relatively quickly.

 

[dushiel]

run at them and do nothing, theyll roll and you will have enoughtime to follow up

 

[The Party]

If you space yourself within their roll range and predict the roll, you can punish with an easy usmash sweetspot.