PSI Magnet Landing Lag Cancel

[Cat8752]

Hey guys, I'm here to report a small Ness discovery I made about the PSI Magnet's properties. Veteran Ness players may already know this, but either way its a nice tidbit that I'd like to share with the Ness boards. I've found that when you double jump and then instantly use PSI magnet low to the ground you cancel all landing lag not even autocanceled, you just skip landing lag completely which I show off here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlMFOeJOp4 (sorry I don't know the command to link a video with the nice fancy text >-<)

Also we should discuss the use of Ness' DJC in general. While it only affects his specials he can still do some interesting things with momentum, and I think DJC PK fire could make for good mixups. Well whatever maybe some of you will pay attention to this, if you do care about this discovery share the video/thread and please start talking about Ness DJC, he's the only one left with that property and it would nice to see it get some usage.

 

[Lochy]

Hey guys, I'm here to report a small Ness discovery I made about the PSI Magnet's properties. Veteran Ness players may already know this, but either way its a nice tidbit that I'd like to share with the Ness boards. I've found that when you double jump and then instantly use PSI magnet low to the ground you cancel all landing lag not even autocanceled, you just skip landing lag completely which I show off here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlMFOeJOp4 (sorry I don't know the command to link a video with the nice fancy text >-<)

Also we should discuss the use of Ness' DJC in general. While it only affects his specials he can still do some interesting things with momentum, and I think DJC PK fire could make for good mixups. Well whatever maybe some of you will pay attention to this, if you do care about this discovery share the video/thread and please start talking about Ness DJC, he's the only one left with that property and it would nice to see it get some usage.

I didn't know about this. It seems like it could be used instead of doing dair into the ground to cancel the lag. I'm gonna start using this now! Thanks!

 

[Asa]

Dair is better

Use magnet to change your fall speed and mix up your movement

 

[Lochy]

Dair is better

Use magnet to change your fall speed and mix up your movement

Got it. Got a little excited for a minute and then noticed that dair is the better option. At least this is a mixup.

 

[Uffe]

PSIM can be good and bad as an aerial momentum shift. At times you can literally push your opponent away from you, making them miss their attack, but it can also have you killed depending on the situation. I've actually done a SH > PSIM > nair/fair and it has worked a few times as a mix up, but nothing too practical.

 

[Cat8752]

Yeah its nice that you're able to land in your standing animation with a windbox. Also Asa think Ness' double jump into PK fire could make for interesting mixups since you can stagger the timing/incorporate b-reverses to alter momentum and whatnot?

 

[Asa]

It's alright but it's still easy to react to. None of us have really incorporated it into our game yet. Try it out and let us know.

I use full hop PKF, which can be dair cancelled, if the opponent has committed to using a projectile or something along those lines

 

[EnhaloTricks]

It's alright but it's still easy to react to. None of us have really incorporated it into our game yet. Try it out and let us know.

I did it once on accident against Dakpo and it threw him off for a second, but he wasn't worried about it one bit. I can't imagine that it would be too useful as a mixup, but maybe some value as mind games and just to confuse.

I think if the windbox came out quicker and at the beginning of psim and not the end it would find FAR more use.

I use full hop PKF, which can be dair cancelled, if the opponent has committed to using a projectile or something along those lines

Fh pkf is awesome cause you can nair out of it if they approach you from below, but if they don't just dair cancel into whatever haha.

Djc pkf also has uses, but it's far more situational. Gotten some early kills by feinting a landing into a djc pkf to bat, but its stI'll a pretty niche maneuver.

I've yet to find a use for the other pkf techs in that one pkf tech video posted...

 

[Cat8752]

Oh, also Lucas can do this with his Pk freeze lol. Don't think its worth making a video for but if any would like video evidence I'd be glad to provide it.

 

[SirShadows]

Oh, also Lucas can do this with his Pk freeze lol. Don't think its worth making a video for but if any would like video evidence I'd be glad to provide it.

You mean Lucas is able to cancel his PK Freeze landing lag?... I usually just B-Reverse the Freeze and approach and enemy with it, having them freeze if they approach too. If this is so, it be much easier to avoid getting punished on landing.

 

[Cat8752]

You mean Lucas is able to cancel his PK Freeze landing lag?... I usually just B-Reverse the Freeze and approach and enemy with it, having them freeze if they approach too. If this is so, it be much easier to avoid getting punished on landing.

Yeah I think he can, but once again its pk freeze, so it would be pretty obvious and easy to react to.