Project FE: The Fire Emblem Mod

[BlackMagicWolf]

Hello everyone. My name is Todd, and I am a huge fan of both Smash Bros. and Fire Emblem.

One day, me and my friend were chatting on Facebook about Ike in SSB4 (not confirmed yet but we're hoping!) and we suddenly found ourselves thinking a very interesting thought. What if they made a game like Smash Bros...with ONLY Fire Emblem characters.

*minds blown*

Now if you're thinking, "why should this happen?" all me to explain. One thing that FE really has is variety in characters, more specifically, classes. Swords, axes, lances, mounts, magic, bows, etc. On and on it goes. I've been saying for awhile that Hector should be in Smash Bros. just so there's an axe-wielder in the game to change up the dynamic.

Anyway, we got talking, and we've been chatting with FE fans, and we really think this could be something epic, if done right. Which is why I'm here. I have no modding experience, yet I've been told this idea is at least plausible, so if someone, or anyone wants to help me make this happen, I'd be grateful.

So here's the loose outline I want for this mod.

1. 36 characters max. I'm already working on getting a finalized roster, working with friends and FE fans so we can be somewhat content. These characters will reflect the ideology above, aka variety and classes, and thus being more than just swordsman duking it out.

2. Unique movesets. This is the most important to me (other than an epic roster), as I don't want a bunch of clones running around. Each character will have unique moves to differentiate themselves from the others. We've already started on this and will be doing more once the roster is finalized.

3. Mounts, aka horses, Pegasus, and wyverns. This is I'm told the trickiest part of my idea. One guy said there was no way mounts can be in a Smash Bros. mod. Yet two others said it's totally possible, what do you guys think? Mounts are an important part of the FE universe, and if it IS possible, I'd want them in the game as part of the unit. Be honest, as this will affect the roster.

4. Stages? I'm not really sure about this one personally. I mean, a fighting game should really be about the fighters, but I'm open to having cool FE stages in this as well. I'll leave this up to you.

5. ONLY FE characters. I wanted to be clear on this. This mod should only have Fire Emblem characters. I like to refer to this as the "blank slate protocol".

So, what do you think? Think we can do this? More importantly, would you like to help make this happen? I'll accept any and all help. Whether it's artists, modelers, designers, programmers, whatever your specialty, i'll take it. I'll be helping of course, getting the roster finalized, designing movesets, etc. I WILL be a part of this, I'm not pawning this off to you guys, I want to be a part of this. I guess you can think of me as a Producer in a loose sense.

I welcome your thoughts and opinions, and again, any help you can give. I thank you for your time.

P.S. I can give you a lot at the "current" roster if you wish to know who I have in the game right now.

 

[Handy Man]

Welcome to SmashBoards, and good luck.

Also, this should go onto Brawl Code Sets.

 

[Xinc]

Hello everyone. My name is Todd, and I am a huge fan of both Smash Bros. and Fire Emblem.

One day, me and my friend were chatting on Facebook about Ike in SSB4 (not confirmed yet but we're hoping!) and we suddenly found ourselves thinking a very interesting thought. What if they made a game like Smash Bros...with ONLY Fire Emblem characters.

*minds blown*

Now if you're thinking, "why should this happen?" all me to explain. One thing that FE really has is variety in characters, more specifically, classes. Swords, axes, lances, mounts, magic, bows, etc. On and on it goes. I've been saying for awhile that Hector should be in Smash Bros. just so there's an axe-wielder in the game to change up the dynamic.

Anyway, we got talking, and we've been chatting with FE fans, and we really think this could be something epic, if done right. Which is why I'm here. I have no modding experience, yet I've been told this idea is at least plausible, so if someone, or anyone wants to help me make this happen, I'd be grateful.

So here's the loose outline I want for this mod.

1. 36 characters max. I'm already working on getting a finalized roster, working with friends and FE fans so we can be somewhat content. These characters will reflect the ideology above, aka variety and classes, and thus being more than just swordsman duking it out.

2. Unique movesets. This is the most important to me (other than an epic roster), as I don't want a bunch of clones running around. Each character will have unique moves to differentiate themselves from the others. We've already started on this and will be doing more once the roster is finalized.

3. Mounts, aka horses, Pegasus, and wyverns. This is I'm told the trickiest part of my idea. One guy said there was no way mounts can be in a Smash Bros. mod. Yet two others said it's totally possible, what do you guys think? Mounts are an important part of the FE universe, and if it IS possible, I'd want them in the game as part of the unit. Be honest, as this will affect the roster.

4. Stages? I'm not really sure about this one personally. I mean, a fighting game should really be about the fighters, but I'm open to having cool FE stages in this as well. I'll leave this up to you.

5. ONLY FE characters. I wanted to be clear on this. This mod should only have Fire Emblem characters. I like to refer to this as the "blank slate protocol".

So, what do you think? Think we can do this? More importantly, would you like to help make this happen? I'll accept any and all help. Whether it's artists, modelers, designers, programmers, whatever your specialty, i'll take it. I'll be helping of course, getting the roster finalized, designing movesets, etc. I WILL be a part of this, I'm not pawning this off to you guys, I want to be a part of this. I guess you can think of me as a Producer in a loose sense.

I welcome your thoughts and opinions, and again, any help you can give. I thank you for your time.

P.S. I can give you a lot at the "current" roster if you wish to know who I have in the game right now.

Hector, Roy, Lucina PSAs have been made already and some costumes as well. I find it slightly humorous that FE mods generally have a fe character as a model.

 

[Raccoon Chuck]

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[BlackMagicWolf]

Thanks for replying everyone! If I really did post in the wrong topic, I'm fine with it being moved by a moderator. I noticed this one said "interesting in creating a mod?" so I put it here.

Anyway, for your comments.

Hector most definitely is in the game, Roy and Lucina aren't at the moment (reasons to be explained later) but they are the first ones in as "DLC".

If you're curious, I've just updated the roster we have for the game. Some of them are non-specific (see: laguz), as they haven't been selected yet. This isn't the complete roster, but we've gotten a lot done in just a few days. Feel free to make suggestions, and let me know if you want to be on the team! Thanks!

1. Ike (POR, RD)
2. Marth (Shadow Dragon)
3. Laguz (POR, RD)
4. Micaiah (RD)
5. Sigurd (Genealogy of the Holy War)
6. Lyndis (Rekka No Ken)
7. Hector (Rekka No Ken)
8. Eliwood (Rekka No Ken)
9. Mad King Ashnard (POR)
10. Eirika (Sacred Stones)
11. Ephraim (Sacred Stones)
12. Arvis
13. Shinon (POD, RD)
14. Sothe (RD)
15. Soren (POR, RD)
16. Illyana
17. Tiki
18. Nephenee
19. Wallace
20. Roy
21. Greil
22. Boyd
23. Lyon

 

[Kally Wally]

I don't see why there can't be a mounted character in Smash, but it would be a challenge. How does a horse grab a ledge? How does a horse air dodge, and by extension, what does a wavedashing horse look like? Obviously the rider and horse can't be separated, except during specific animations (see: Ike and his sword during Aether.)

On a broader topic, this is really ambitious. Like, possibly more ambitious than Project M in some ways (less huge coding breakthroughs to make, of course,) because PM is based on existing characters, and this is an entirely new roster, with very little overlap. I don't mean to discourage you, but don't expect it to be easy.

Do you plan to release this as a standalone Brawl mod, or something based on Project M? I assume the latter, since you posted it in the PM section, but it's not clear.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Kally Wally,

All fantastic questions all ones that will need to be answered as we continue. Especially ledge grabbing, that will be fun to see!

Ambitious? Yes it is! Mainly because I'm including weapons and abilities that weren't in brawl at all (magic, axes, lances, etc.) but I think with the right team, this can be done. It won't be easy, it could take months, but if people are willing to give it a shot, I'll see this through to the end.

Technically, this would be a separate brawl mod, but using Project M as a baseline I'm told would be easier. That way we won't totally have to work from the ground up. That, and Project M already has Ike, Marth, Roy, and skins of other characters at the ready.

So yeah, I think that answers everything. If you think you know some people who might interested in helping, please let them know about this! I need all the help I can get.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Hey everyone,

Todd here again, just wanted to update the roster for Project FE, we've made some changes since last time, wanted you to see it, and maybe get your opinions on it!

We're really hoping to start working on the mod soon, so if think this might be for you, or you just feel like helping, let me know! Any and all help will be appreciated!

Updated Roster:

1. Ike (POR, RD)
2. Marth (Shadow Dragon)
3. Muarim
4. Micaiah (RD)
5. Sigurd (Geneal ogy of the Holy War)
6. Lyndis (Rekka No Ken)
7. Hector (Rekka No Ken)
8. Eliwood (Rekka No Ken)
9. Mad King Ashnard (POR)
10. Eirika (Sacred Stones)
11. Ephraim (Sacred Stones)
12. Arvis
13. Shinon (POD, RD)
14. Sothe (RD)
15. Soren (POR, RD)
16. Illyana
17. Tiki
18. Nephenee
19. Wallace
20. Roy
21. Greil
22. Boyd
23. Lyon
24. Ranulf

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Is Lucina eligible?

A lot of people also want to see villains. Black Knight and Ashnard come to mind.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

I can not even imagine the black knight in a smash like game
Lolz
I'd play this tho

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

He warp powders for Up-B, has huge weight and fallspeed and maybe his model is a little less fat. Super armor?

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Villains wise we have Ashnard, Lyon, and Arvis. But I'm always open for adding more! Black Knight is definitely a possibility, especially with him being a heavyweight character, much more than Ike is. So you never know!

We're talking about the roster on Facebook if you want to join in the fun! We're talking about mounted units today (horses, Pegasus, wyverns), hope to see you there!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FireEmblemGroup/10152309370042500/?notif_t=group_comment

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Ok, I need your guys' opinion.

A big part of this game mod will be mounted units. I REALLY want to have them full-time in the game (as in horse/Pegasus/wyvern and rider together as one) but a lot of people, including one of the guys helping me on the project, don't think that's possible. What do you all think?

And if you think it's possible, would you mind helping me prove it is by helping make the unit?

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Hey everyone,

Still looking for help in regards to making this mod. We're getting really close to the roster being "finalized", so production will hopefully start soon!

So if you want to help, or if you have suggestions for the roster, just let me know!

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Hey everyone,

Still looking for help in regards to making this mod. We're getting really close to the roster being "finalized", so production will hopefully start soon!

So if you want to help, or if you have suggestions for the roster, just let me know!

Get some people from the new FE

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Chrom, Robin and Lucina all deserve to be in.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

We have Lucina, she was very popular. Chrom is on the bubble, and the Avatar was voted out.....for now. We have Lon'qu in the final rankings, he still needs to be voted upon though. I had Tharja and Miriel but they were voted out as well.

Any other suggestions are welcome!

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

We're getting ready to begin Project FE! Check out our current Final Roster! We might be making some additions later.

Also, we're still looking for help to make this project. Artists, programmers, modelers, designers, any and all help is welcome!

1. Ike
2. Marth
3. Muarim
4. Micaiah
5. Sigurd
6. Lyndis
7. Hector
8. Eliwood
9. Mad King Ashnard
10. Eirika
11. Ephraim
12. Arvis
13. Shinon
14. Volke
15. Soren
16. Illyana
17. Tiki
18. Nephenee
19. Wallace
20. Roy
21. Greil
22. Murdock
23. Lyon
24. Ranulf
25. Titania
26. Minerva
27. Shiida
28. Lucina
29. Black Knight
30. Lon'qu
31. Chrom

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

I don't know a whole lot about Fire Emblem, but I'd play this mod if it really, actually, professionally came to fruition.

Are you guys considering Anna? She's the unofficial mascot of Fire Emblem from what I've heard, and she's reoccurring like Tiki is.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Oh great, I know less than 5% of these characters. That aside, do you have any images or is this just on the drawing board stage?

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

I don't know a whole lot about Fire Emblem, but I'd play this mod if it really, actually, professionally came to fruition.

Are you guys considering Anna? She's the unofficial mascot of Fire Emblem from what I've heard, and she's reoccurring like Tiki is.

Well then stay tuned! We're about to start soon! As for Anna, she was discussed, and though she's not totally out of the game, she's doubtful at this point.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Oh great, I know less than 5% of these characters. That aside, do you have any images or is this just on the drawing board stage?

SuperMii3D: Really? What FE games have you played? At this point we don't have images. We just finished the roster and we're going to start implementing the new characters into the mod soon. If you're wanting to help, we could always use another hand!

 

[SuperMii3D]

SuperMii3D: Really? What FE games have you played? At this point we don't have images. We just finished the roster and we're going to start implementing the new characters into the mod soon. If you're wanting to help, we could always use another hand!

Thats the problem, all I have is Fire Emblem: Awakening (Totally awesome by the way) and I know very little of FE. I would help. but I have no idea as to what I could do, since I have just about no modding skills....

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Thats the problem, all I have is Fire Emblem: Awakening (Totally awesome by the way) and I know very little of FE. I would help. but I have no idea as to what I could do, since I have just about no modding skills....

Awakening is TOTALLY awesome. We'll probably be adding more characters from there soon. If you have the power (or emulator as it were) try and play some of the other games. Especially Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn. Totally worth it!

Like I said, we need help in all areas, not just modding. What skills do you believe you have?

 

[SuperMii3D]

Awakening is TOTALLY awesome. We'll probably be adding more characters from there soon. If you have the power (or emulator as it were) try and play some of the other games. Especially Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn. Totally worth it!

Like I said, we need help in all areas, not just modding. What skills do you believe you have?

Is Radiant Dawn for GBA? If so, I can get my emulator to play it.

I can use my laptop for several purposes, you just have to teach me, and Ill pick up rather quickly. I want to learn how to work with other modders, so that I can be a pro modder in the future.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

Is Radiant Dawn for GBA? If so, I can get my emulator to play it.

I can use my laptop for several purposes, you just have to teach me, and Ill pick up rather quickly. I want to learn how to work with other modders, so that I can be a pro modder in the future.

Radiant Dawn is for the Wii.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Radiant Dawn is for the Wii.

Hmm, Ill check it out. I was never too big on Fire Emblem...

 

[True Fool]

I would love to see this happen. Dibs on playtesting.

By the way, have you considered using the mounts similarly to Wario's bike? The main difference I'm thinking, would be that mounted characters begin the match on the mount, with a full mounted moveset, can be knocked from their mount, in which case it stays on stage like Wario's bike. That way the horse/wyvern/whatever doesn't have to grab a ledge. The mounts themselves would not be possible to attack while no one is riding them, however, if you lose your mount over a ledge, it will not respawn until you lose your stock and respawn yourself.

I'm thinking all of the mounted characters should have a unique moveset while on their mounts, however giving them a generic moveset to share when unmounted will cut down on having to give 5+ characters two separate movesets. Or vice-versa, if you'd rather give them a generic mounted moveset and have them use a unique moveset when grounded, although I feel that would somewhat defeat the purpose of mounted characters.

That's just my take on the mounts anyways. I'll probably pop back in this thread every so often to brainstorm with you guys.

EDIT: Btw, would love to see Valter. Favorite FE8 villain(possibly favorite FE8 character).

 

[Matt73hl33tn355]

Oh my gosh, I've been waiting for this for forever!! I will offer whatever help I can, I've got some coding experience and a good creative mind (could definitely help with movesets; in fact, I already have a good number of ideas if ya want 'em). I think, to fill out the other 5 slots for the roster, you should have (offering 4 alternates):

1. Robin (I know Robin's almost out, but with alternate costumes you could make them M/F, moveset would be awesome with swords/magic).
2. Sully/Kent/Kieran/Forde
3. Stahl/Sain/Oscar/Kyle (the cavaliers are missing!)
4. Boyd (More axes!!)
5. Jill/Haar/Vanessa/Valter/Gerome (Dracoknights and lances)
6. Donnel (Hero)
7. Tharja
8. Noire
9. Merric/Ricken

In terms of mounts, I like True Fool's ideas. I would add that wyverns could easily ledge grab with claws. For horses and pegasi, however, this wouldn't work. For them, I would suggest a tether (Like Lucas and Link). Something attached to the saddle that the rider cranks and it pulls them up to the ledge. Alternatively, you could just keep the normal ledge grab and have the riders automatically dismount when they have to grab the ledge (Which I think is what True Fool was implying).

 

[Freduardo]

On the mount issue:

I really only see it working as a bunch of characters have a move similar to Wario's motorcycle, only with horses/wyverns/pegasi.

the problem is much like wario's bike, it will be odd to see Smash character's lift and throw a wyvern.

and downright dark to see them lift and throw parts of a wyvern.

Edit: Just read True Fool's far more insightful commentary on this. And I do love taunt unlocked move sets. His plan is better than my dark view on throwing wyvern limbs as items.

The final roster is really cool.

So uhm.. FE 4 and FE 5 DLC?

...I just want to play as Sigurd vs Alvis and have Sigurd win.

Or Levin or Sety with Holsety wreck the world.

 

[young grasshopper]

have you considered having manaketes/taguel? I for one would love to play as Nowi/Yarne

on the topic of mounts: I think that the only mount that should take knockback would be wyverns, as they would be able to grab the ledge, other mounts would provide a certain amount knockback resistance, taking above that certain amount of knockback would send you flying off of your mount. If you lose a mount it's gone until you respawn