Problems with Wolf.

[Metro Knight]

So, I am having problems beating my brother's wolf. Wolf has 3 moves that are really good, and make my smash life hell. First off, the laser is just good enough to hit me, while I am on the ground or rolling, and it is to low for my projectiles to counter, pretty annoying. Second, if I come at him with a neutral air or a zair a lot of the time, he will just his fsmash and hit me anyways, that move has so much speed/priority it is ********, not to mention the fsmash will hit you, while you are on the ground. Than after only using 2 moves the entire fight, he will throw in the dsmash to finish me off, and it only takes 1 of those at high percentages to finish you off.


If someone could post a video on how to properly space versus Wolf, or something very useful, that would be nice, also can I use the tether recovery versus his dsmash? the instant grab thing, that is useful versus horizontal knock back.

 

[Aurashade]

Just spam, either that or try to be a *** and play him until you know what he'll do next.

 

[LinkSpecialist]

Use the shield more often and you'll be fine, also if Wolf starts to spam his laser just crouch down. Play defense more than offense and you should do good.

 

[Metro Knight]

Ah, so if I crouch will I hyrule shield all of the lasers? sometimes link will move the shield out of the way, but hopefully he will remain shielding.

How should I deal with the Fsmash spams? I can grab him, but I am having issues hitting him with any of my aerials, which include the zair and the nair, so I am not sure how to deal with fsmashes comboed with more fsmashes.


My brother has everything working now, so I believe I can start posting videos (finally) of my Link, and Link Versus Ness, Lucas, Peach, and Wolf.

 

[jalued]

just let wolf come to you. link always has priority with defense, he just has so many options. just wait with shield up, and wolf will have to advance to get anything done. thats when you hit him with superior range. another gd thing to do is to learn the range of his fsmash, so you can properly space him. gl

 

[Chaos Reign]

For his laser spam, I usually jump over and use a GB. Even if I take the laser hit as long as the GB hits you can approach or interupt his timing to reorient yourself.

For fsmashes, you can sometimes try to guess when there going to use it. Since it has a longer range than his other moves(at least I think so, maybe the distance gained from his AAA jab has about equal range), you can space properly so that you land after a zair within range of his fsmash only. And thanks to the zero landing lag from the zair, you can throw up a shield or do a spotdodge as he is fsmashing and follow it up with a throw or uptilt. He will get used to it eventually and try other things, but at least it will get him to stop spamming like that.

For the dsmash I don't think you can use the instant tether recovery because it hits you upward a bit more than fox and falco's.

Sorry I can't get you any video's, but I'm not very good at that sort of thing.

EDIT: Despite what I said here, Link's defensive game is definitely better than his approaches(at least right now), and so using projectiles while jumping(to avoid laser spam) is a good idea. It helps a lot if there are platforms too. Just use what I said above to mix things up.

 

[Metro Knight]

Well, I use mostly jabs, throws, fsmash, I use a lot of z drops and other bombs, as well as the occasional arrow w/e its convienent, mostly as an arrow cancel.

I have been dodging the fsmash than dsmashing, however if i miss the dodge, i am canceling out of his fsmash, unless he tippers me, and not getting moved that much.
It is a lot like shiek's 2 hits from melee, where you can L or R cancel out of it.
Generally if I see that he is right in front of me, and i have to block, i always shield grab, i stopped doing normal grabs b/c it was too slow.

If he does his Fsmash and is far enough behind me i do a short hop back air combo.

I am getting pretty good at spacing the short hop FAIRs, the ZAIR works well, but it seems to have limited uses, because wolf's ****ing character will duck so often the attack misses. But the ZAIR is definitely a great counter for most of his air approaches.

The laser camping isn't so bad, as long as you aren't on a ledge. Yoshi's level is probably the worst level to play Wolf Against, Battle Field or the Star Fox's level is probably the best. You can use your shield to block it, crouching definitely helps, since you actually keep the shield infront of you. i shorthop or hop over the laser and rang him, or bomb him. After I hit him with the rang or bomb, i go in for the DAC.

Not much you can do about the Dsmash other than making him use it early so it gets stale.

I use the Nar some, but its really only good when you can link it to a jab combo.

I think one of my big problems now, is dealing with the 1 frame more Wolf gets on his jump, and the fact that all of those Aerials aren't stale at all.

Anyways, I think Link has a big disadvantage versus Wolf, but I think if you play against WOlf enough, it definitely get a whole lot better.

Also, when you are tether ****ing him, remember to do it a bit early, since he can hit you while you are zairing, but not while you are just holding on invincible. If you do it to late, he just hits you and you have to do a new recovery. I think the biggest advantage Link has on Wolf is the tether gimping.

 

[Warriors]

A lot of good advice.

Use them

they're good

no, seriously

 

[Metro Knight]

my advice is good, or all the advice on here, or just the posts above me? Clarify pls

 

[TrevynThOt]

niggga wants a medal for his advice on how to fight wolf lolz.
if they forward smash spam why not just blok the f smash and he goes past you with it and let go of sheild and fsmash him back, or he'll most likely block after the f smash so grabbin doesn't sound bad as far as laser go do bombs go through his laser i have no idea i never played a wolf, but bombs seem to go through alot fo projectiles