Post-Advanced techniques - Which one and how to master them?

[PlamZ]

Hello everyone! As a fellow player for close to 3 years, I've been stalling as for which new techniques should be added to my portfolio.

Being a dual main, I have to constantly keep a good balance between both my characters, which happen to be Falco and Marth. Falco brings the berseker out of me as well as keep my reflex sharp while Marth challenges my decision making, spacing and movement game..

Whatever the character one choose, different techniques are available to him. I personally put them in 3 categories.

P.S.: Keep in mind that the lists below only contains technical moves and do not contain the mindgame part of one's play. I tried to keep the lists free of any technique which would require multiple player to train or practice. While these are the term I employ to distinguish them, I understand people might have a different opinion. Since this is only an overview, I left out most characters technique and focused on the one relative to my own characters.

Basic technique : These technique are needed to understand the flow of the game. Without them, it is virtually impossible to beat a seasoned player. They include, but are not limited to : Shielding, basic edge guarding, overview of your character moves, recovery options and more.

Advanced technique : The most well-known of all techniques lie in this category. While not mandatory at low to mid-level, these technique will give your the edge needed to out-play your opponent when mastered (Success rate of 95 to 100%). They include but are not limited to : Wavedashing, Short hopping, L-Canceling, OOS options, Wavelands, Dashdancing and more.

Post-advanced technique : Even though this category of technique does dictate a standard or a natural progress of one's play, they are slowly becoming the norm at top-level play. These techniques, sometime called out as flashy, can grant you the effect of surprise and strike fear into your opponent soul. They include, but are not limited to : Multishine, Shield drop, moonwalk, waveshine turnaround, edge cancel aerials, SHDL, Out-of-shine grabs, ETC.​

My question : What is, in your eyes, the best Post-advanced technique to master once the Advanced technique are down?

Also, what is your favorite or optimal way to practice them?

Feel free to share tips about any character! Thanks!

 

[AirFair]

well for Falco I think multishines for shield pressure. For Marth you might want practice pivot tech. Arc made a good video about that. If you want, look for my post on the Marth boards called Marth Tech/Resource List or something along those lines.

 

[Xyzz]

Shield drop.

Also shine > grab is trivial.

 

[Spak]

Moonwalking is only really a viable thing to apply if you are playing Gannon or Falcon. Edge-cancelling Phantasm/Illusion on a platform is pretty cool when you pull it off, but that option is usually covered by better players. I'd say Waveshining and SHDL (I think that's what you were talking about when you said SDHL) is pretty vital for Fox. SHL is almost a necessity at this point to pressure the opponent with Falco and for everyone else, I'll say shield dropping.

 

[PlamZ]

Moonwalking is only really a viable thing to apply if you are playing Gannon or Falcon. Edge-cancelling Phantasm/Illusion on a platform is pretty cool when you pull it off, but that option is usually covered by better players. I'd say Waveshining and SHDL (I think that's what you were talking about when you said SDHL) is pretty vital for Fox. SHL is almost a necessity at this point to pressure the opponent with Falco and for everyone else, I'll say shield dropping.

Indeed for SHL it is Falco basics and indeed I was talking about SHDL. As for waveshining I was refering to Waveshe turnaround. Do you still think it's mandatory?

 

[JKJ]

If you're not playing fox, why do you need SHDL?
Shinegrabbing is pretty easy. I'd call it a regular-old advanced technique, not a post-advanced technique.
I'd say multishining and shield dropping would be the most important of the list. Also ledge-canceled aerials, but they come with time and experience; you'll get a feel for it the more you try for them.
multishining is excellent shield pressure, but especially doubleshine grab would be useful.
shield dropping has almost innumerable uses if done consistently. There are multiple types, as well, which are also useful, such as the running shield drop (the fastest way to drop through a platform while running).
so yeah, shield dropping and multishine tricks.

 

[PlamZ]

If you're not playing fox, why do you need SHDL?
so yeah, shield dropping and multishine tricks.

As I said at the bottom, all advices are welcome. If someone else can pick up some tips, it's just better.