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Plz rate my Hailstorm team

Icetom1024

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Ok this team is already done, but I think I can make changes if need be:

Abomasnow @Leftovers
Sassy(+SpD, -Spd)
Snow Warning
252 Hp/20 SpA/160 SpD/76 Spd
-Wood Hammer
-Blizzard
-Toxic(didn't breed for leech seed)
-Protect


He is my starter so I can whip up a Hailstorm, semi-toxistaller since I didn't breed for Leech Seed.

[B](Smogon)Walrein @Leftovers
Impish(+Def, -SpA)
Ice Body
252 Hp/252 Def/6 SpA
-Substitute
-Encore
-Blizzard
-Earthquake/Surf/Toxic
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(Smogon)Walrein is highly unlikely to be sweeping, but he can use Encore to help a team mate set up. Encore a Thunderbolt, switch to a Ground type, Encore a Fighting attack, switch to a Ghost, you get the idea. You can also Encore stat boosting attacks, recovery moves, etc. Giving a team mate another possibility of a free switch in. Substitute helps to ensure you don't take too much damage from Encored attacks. Toxic can be used to spread status when Encore forces a switch.

Froslass @Choice Specs/Bright Powder
Timid(+Spd, -Atk)
Snow Veil
252 SpA/252 Spd/6 SpD
-Blizzard
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic/Destiny Bond


Froslass is my Secial sweeper, with the speed of a Gengar, it is still underpowered which is why CS is there. Also my modified version of BoltBeam, Blizzard=STAB, Shadow Ball also=STAB, plus T-bolt for more coverage. The last slot could have been for HP fighting which can hit T-Tar and Weavile. While Psychic stops Un-Scarfed Heracross. Bright Powder with Snow Cloak is for evasion Hax and for more freedom of moves allowing it to Destiny Bond.

Mamoswine @Choice Band
Adamant(+Atk, -SpA)
Snow Veil
252 Atk/200 Spd/56 Hp
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Stone Edge
-Peck


Earthquake puts massive holes in bulky waters trying to Surf him. Ice Shard makes up for its average speed and also destroys Dragons, it also helps with its grass weakness. Stone Edge is there to hit fliers hard. HaHaHa, Peck...as a move...Yes. Peck is there for one reason and that is to OHKO Heracross.

Weavile @Expert Belt
Adamant(+Atk, -SpA)
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp
-Swords Dance
-Night Slash
-Brick Break
-Ice Punch


Expert Belt gives its attacks a little extra kick, although anything that it hit for super effective damage after Swords Dance should die regardless. Not much else to say about Weavile.

Regice @Leftovers
Bold(+ Def, -Atk)
Clear Body
252 Hp/252 Def/6 SpD
-Blizzard
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave
-Focus Punch


Thunder Wave isthere to slow down speedy sweepers like Infernape and Azelf. Focus Punch will easily OHKO Weavile, 2HKO Tyranitar and does around 35% to Blissey.


So this my Hailstorm team. Those who wonder why I use Blizzard instead of Ice Beam, that is because in the Hail, Blizzard has 100% accuracy and is stronger than Ice Beam. Otherwise I would go with Ice Beam. Was thinking of putting a bulky Togekiss in there, seeing how I may need Wish support. I also know I need a spinner, but I don't know who. Anyway I would appreciate any help on how to improve my team to get the best out of it.
 

mood4food77

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too many ice

will get owned by anything with a fighting move, especially metagross, infernape, heck even aero will give trouble with stone edge

just not a good idea, ice type is a very bad type, great for attack, not for an actual type

abomasnow is a must, just take out other pokes for stuff like walls
 

Icetom1024

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So far I was thinking about taking out Walrein for Donphan for a spinner. I also want to input a Togekiss, but don't know who it would replace.
 

Tyrannotaur

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I'd also Suggest giving someone Hail. It may seem like a waste of a moveslot.. but with the number of Tyranitars out there, plus all the pokemon that can learn Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Sandstorm it'll be worth it. Especially if Abomasnow faints.
 

mood4food77

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that's why abomasnow is a late game sweeper, even though he's a starter

trust me, people with hail teams almost always take away abomasnow right away cause of it's weaknesses

tentacruel is the best spinner for a hail team, it can switch into almost any weakness ice has

also, metagross can help too since it also can switch into most of ice weaknesses

only leave abomasnow out there if the enemy can be OHKO'd, abomasnow must last as long as possible
 

The9litch

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just like I told you on smogon Thomas...:

Abomasnow
Weavile: Heatran (takes care of Infernape and Heracross)
Regice: Tentacruel (Spins Rocks sets up extra damage, knocks items away etc)
Froslass
Mamoswine
Walrein

I might also consider a WishKiss to support you.
 

mood4food77

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all ice is bad, very bad

gets owned by sashnape (nape with a focus sash) since a CC will OHKO all but i think 2 pokes, and Flareblitz/flamethrower will OHKO all of them but 2

so all ice is bad
 

Icetom1024

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I got the point Kris -_-. *n00b* :ohwell:

and thank you for the help people, Ill do the changes
 

Icetom1024

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Ok this team was up before but I made a couple of revisions

Abomasnow @Leftovers
Sassy(+SpD, -Spd)
Snow Warning
252 Hp/20 SpA/160 SpD/76 Spd
-Wood Hammer
-Blizzard
-Toxic(didn't breed for leech seed)
-Protect

He is my starter so I can whip up a Hailstorm, semi-toxistaller since I didn't breed for Leech Seed


(Smogon)Walrein @Leftovers
Impish(+Def, -SpA)
Ice Body
252 Hp/252 Def/6 SpA
-Substitute
-Encore
-Blizzard/Avalanche
-Earthquake/Surf/Toxic

(Smogon)Walrein is highly unlikely to be sweeping, but he can use Encore to help a team mate set up. Encore a Thunderbolt, switch to a Ground type, Encore a Fighting attack, switch to a Ghost, you get the idea. You can also Encore stat boosting attacks, recovery moves, etc. Giving a team mate another possibility of a free switch in. Substitute helps to ensure you don't take too much damage from Encored attacks. Toxic can be used to spread status when Encore forces a switch.


Froslass @Choice Specs/Bright Powder
Timid(+Spd, -Atk)
Snow Veil
252 SpA/252 Spd/6 SpD
-Blizzard
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic/Destiny Bond

Froslass is my Secial sweeper, with the speed of a Gengar, it is still underpowered which is why CS is there. Also my modified version of BoltBeam, Blizzard=STAB, Shadow Ball also=STAB, plus T-bolt for more coverage. The last slot could have been for HP fighting which can hit T-Tar and Weavile. While Psychic stops Un-Scarfed Heracross. Bright Powder with Snow Cloak is for evasion Hax and for more freedom of moves allowing it to Destiny Bond


Mamoswine @Choice Band
Adamant(+Atk, -SpA)
Snow Veil
252 Atk/200 Spd/56 Hp
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Stone Edge
-Peck

Earthquake puts massive holes in bulky waters trying to Surf him. Ice Shard makes up for its average speed and also destroys Dragons, it also helps with its grass weakness. Stone Edge is there to hit fliers hard. HaHaHa, Peck...as a move...Yes. Peck is there for one reason and that is to OHKO Heracross


Tentacruel@Leftovers
Calm(+SpD, -Atk)
Clear Body
204Hp/96 SpA/172 SpD/36 Spd
-Surf
-Rapid Spin
-Toxic Spikes
-Hidden Power Elec

Tentacruel serves as my spinner to get rid of Stealth Rocks. Surf is the obvious choice. Toxic Spikes gives you some more support for wearing down opponents and can prove useful to drain the likes of Dusknoir and Spiritomb, who will block Rapid Spin. HP Elec for other waters and for Gyarados


Heatran@Choice Scarf
Naive(+ Spd, -SpD)
Flash Fire
16Hp/252SpA/240SpD
-Fire Blast/Overheat
-Explosion
-Dragon Pulse
-Earth Power

Not too much to say on Heatran. Great pokemon to switch in on oncoming fire attacks giving it a double STAB Overheat or Fire Blast. Scarf to outspeed other scarfers notably Heracross. Earth Power provides excellent coverage on both Tyranitar and Rhyperior though Specs would allow a 2HKO. When Heatran is close to fainting, you can use Explosion to take out another Pokémon.

So this my Hailstorm team. Those who wonder why I use Blizzard instead of Ice Beam, that is because in the Hail, Blizzard has 100% accuracy and is stronger than Ice Beam. I made some changes to my team. I now have Tentacruel over Weavile so I can have a spinner and also provide support in the form of Toxic Spikes. Also I added Heatran who resists Stealth Rocks and can deal some damage...a bonus if it switches in on a fire attack.
 
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