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Please look at my NEW Sandstormish team

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Wii4Mii 99

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Anything in pink is edited stuff.


Forretress @ Macho Brace
Relaxed (Def+ Spd-)
Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 162 Atk / 96 Def
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Stealth Rock
Spikes
Gyro Ball
Earthquake

Lead; Set up Stealth Rocks first (if possible), then some Spikes when I get the chance to. Earthquake for Magnezone. Macho Brace, Relaxed, and 0 Speed IVs makes STAB Gyro Ball stronger. Gyro Ball can hit anything with 198 Speed and above with at least 100 BP, and 150 against anything above 297. This is before STAB is factored in.


Tyranitar @ Life Orb
Jolly (Spd+ SA-)
Sand Stream
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
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Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Crunch

One of my Physical Sweepers. Dragon Dance and sweep. Crunch can help wear down defensive Ground types like Swampert, Hippowdon, and Donphan.


Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Adamant (Atk+ SA-)
Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
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Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Earthqukae
Megahorn

My other Physical Sweeper. Swords Dance and sweep. Rhyperior can also be an alternative Physical Wall since Forretress doesn't have Leftovers.


Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest (SA+ Atk-)
Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
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Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Claw

Specsmence. Draco Meteor hits everything neutral except Steels. Flamethrower for Skarmory and Bronzong. Hydro Pump for Probopass, Bastiodon, and Heatran. Although it's Modest, Mence's Dragon Claw will still do decent damage.


Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Timid (Spd+ Atk-)
Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
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Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

My Gengar's attacks cover types decently. With Focus Blast, it can 2HKO Snorlax or 3HKO Blissey. Gengar still outspeeds Gyarados after a Dragon Dance, so it can Thunderbolt it to prevent it from sweeping. Choice Scarf will allow it to OHKO Weavile right off the bat while outspeeding it. From what some raters have told me, Swampert is the biggest threat to my team. If this theory becomes a debate, I'll switch Shadow Ball for Energy Ball. I'm also thinking about changing Hypnosis to Wil-o-wisp so the Pokemon on my opponent's team will be hurt even more.


Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold (Def+ Atk-)
Serene Grace
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 108 SpAtk
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Softboiled
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

CMBliss. Has the BoltBeam combo. Serene Grace raises the status effect of Thunderbolt and Ice Beam to a 20% chance of occuring.
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Here is a threat list and which of my Pokemon best counters the threat:

Tyranitar: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Gyarados: Salamence, Gengar.
Infernape: Rhyperior, Salamence.
Azelf: Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Gengar, Blissey.
Rhyperior: Forretress, Salamence.
Electivire: Forretress, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Heracross: Rhyperior, Salamence.
Salamence: Salamence, Blissey.
Togekiss: Rhyperior, Salamence, Gengar.
Gengar: Forretress, Gengar, Blissey.
Garchomp: Rhyperior, Salamence.
Raikou: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Blissey.
Lucario: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Salamence, Blissey.
Tauros: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Starmie: Gengar, Blissey.
Weavile: Forretress, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Dugtrio: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Salamence.
Alakazam: Gengar, Blissey.
Porygon-Z: Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Blissey.
Medicham: Forretress, Rhyperior.
Staraptor: Forretress, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Slowbro: Tyranitar, Gengar, Blissey.
Jolteon: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Blissey.
Aerodactyl: Forretress, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Snorlax: Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Zapdos: Rhyperior, Blissey.
Blissey: Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Suicune: Gengar, Blissey.
Sceptile: Forretress, Salamence, Blissey.
Slaking: Forretress, Rhyperior, Gengar.
Tangrowth: Rhyperior, Salamence, Gengar, Blissey.
Ninjask: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Salamence, Gengar.
Metagross: Forretress, Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Salamence.
Celebi: Tyranitar, Salamence, Gengar, Blissey.
Jirachi: Tyranitar, Rhyperior, Salamence, Blissey.
Manaphy: Gengar, Blissey.
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All of my teams' weaknesses are covered by another Pokemon that either resists the weakness or is immune to it.

I've been thinking about putting a Pokemon with Knock Off on my team. Sandstorm damage negates Leftovers recovery, so the opponent's Pokemon wouldn't gain or lose any health at the end of the turn. If it's Leftovers are knocked Off, however, it would take damage at the end of the turn from Sandstorm.

Please RMT and/or give suggestions.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Really, a 9/10, this team is almost flawless in everyway, but that still doesn't mean it's unbeatable...
Don't say that because you don't want to try to ruin my dreams again like before. Don't hold back!

But... Is it really THAT good?

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TombStone

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I like it, but I have a question. If you're making it a "sandstormish" team, why is everything made like a sweeper? Sandstorm isn't gonna do much damage unless you've got a stall/wall type team...even your blissey has abandoned its usual cleric set for a bolt beam combo.

It's a nice team. Assuming you don't get caught by a surprise fire attack when setting up stealth rocks and spikes, you'll be able to cause plenty of damage just by swapping to match types. I think thats how a sanstorm team should be designed. Sandstorm damage, plus spikes and stealth rocks, and maybe a para/toxic/pyroshuffler to add to it.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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I like it, but I have a question. If you're making it a "sandstormish" team, why is everything made like a sweeper? Sandstorm isn't gonna do much damage unless you've got a stall/wall type team...even your blissey has abandoned its usual cleric set for a bolt beam combo.

It's a nice team. Assuming you don't get caught by a surprise fire attack when setting up stealth rocks and spikes, you'll be able to cause plenty of damage just by swapping to match types. I think thats how a sanstorm team should be designed. Sandstorm damage, plus spikes and stealth rocks, and maybe a para/toxic/pyroshuffler to add to it.
Well, my Pokes not immune to Sandstorm will obviously be hurt by it and be eventually worn down, so for them, it's sweep or be killed. Sorta. Besides, Blissey is still a Special Wall, and Calm Mind boosts it's SpDef.

Remember, it's a Sandstormish team. ;)

At least someone else rated it. :)

But... Yet another person that put their opinion but not a rating... :(

Until wii meet again,
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Edit: @ Eight Sage
I don't think a Swampert or even a Poliwrath will survive a Gengar Energy Ball.

Edit Edit: Oh... My Gengar doesn't have Energy Ball... What about my SpecsMence?
 

Wii4Mii 99

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very solid team... id give give it a 9/10... the only threat, which isnt even that big of one, is a swampert...
Well, if this Swampert > My team thing keeps going on, I'll switch Gengar's Shadow Ball for Energy Ball.

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mood4food77

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ummm, just wondering

where's the sandstorm on your team

i mean, you have ryheperior who makes it amazing, also 2 pokes that won't take damage from it, only leaving swampert to worry about, which you can use gengar to counter that

other than taht, very good team, 9/10
 

Wii4Mii 99

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ummm, just wondering

where's the sandstorm on your team

i mean, you have ryheperior who makes it amazing, also 2 pokes that won't take damage from it, only leaving swampert to worry about, which you can use gengar to counter that

other than taht, very good team, 9/10
Hmm... I'm assuming you're new to Pokemon considering the fact that you just recently started posting on here. Tyranitar's ability brings up a Sandstorm when brought out.

To answer anyone's question about why my whole team isn't immune to Sandstorm...

I would have a very big weakness because Rock, Ground and Steel share weaknesses. Rock and Ground are weak to Water and Grass, while Rock and Steel are weak to Fighting and Ground.

I'm thinking about changing two things in my team right now:
1. Change Gengar's Hypnosis to Wil-o-wisp so Pokes on my oppo's team will get hurt even more.
2. Putting a Poke with Knock Off on my team. Sandstorm damage negates Leftovers recovery, so the Leftovers Poke wouldn't gain or lose any health. If I Knock Off the Leftovers, however, the Poke will lose damage at the end of the turn.

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:yoshi: Well, I think what M4FD was trying to get across was...

...it would help if somebody on your team actually had the move Sandstorm so you don't have to keep bringing Tyranitar in and then switching out. The moves that Tyranitar baits the most are Grass Knot and Brick Break, two moves that Forretress and Rhyperior won't exactly want to switch into. Also, it's handy to have the move on hand just in case Tyranitar falls. The strategy is seemingly leaning entirely on the idea of Tyranitar being around forever, so it's just something to consider.
 

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:yoshi: Well, I think what M4FD was trying to get across was...

...it would help if somebody on your team actually had the move Sandstorm so you don't have to keep bringing Tyranitar in and then switching out. The moves that Tyranitar baits the most are Grass Knot and Brick Break, two moves that Forretress and Rhyperior won't exactly want to switch into. Also, it's handy to have the move on hand just in case Tyranitar falls. The strategy is seemingly leaning entirely on the idea of Tyranitar being around forever, so it's just something to consider.
Hmm... Maybe you're right... I'm assuming you know that Tyranitar's Sandstream brings a Sandstorm that doesn't disappear unless the weather is changed.

I'll reconsider it.

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mood4food77

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i'm not new to pokes, just the abilities and natures still confuse me a bit

it sucks i have pearl and my bro has diamond...he barely plays his game and i need like so many guys from him
 

Wii4Mii 99

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@ mood4food77
I noticed our usernames have a lot in common.
1. We both have "4" instead of "for".
2. Mood and food, and wii and mii rhyme.
3. We both have a number at the end of our username twice (77 and 99 instead of 78 or something)
4. Our usernames are kinda like sentences. As it says in your sig, "Are you in the mood4food?". Mine is as if someone wants a Wii, hence the name "Wii4Mii".

LOLZ What a coincidence. :laugh:

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mood4food77

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yes, a lot in common i see

i remember when the wii was announced as the name for the wii (before it was called the revolution), the mods changed all the names to have wii in it

mine was mood4wii77...and i couldn't log in

man was taht long ago

anyways, you seem to know your stuff

by the way, manaphy is uber now, i wasn't expecting it either

and what's the best nature for ryheperior, cause i wanna use one as a back-up possibly
 

Wii4Mii 99

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yes, a lot in common i see

i remember when the wii was announced as the name for the wii (before it was called the revolution), the mods changed all the names to have wii in it

mine was mood4wii77...and i couldn't log in

Ouch...

man was taht long ago

anyways, you seem to know your stuff

Yes, I do. ;) Thank you for noticing that.

by the way, manaphy is uber now, i wasn't expecting it either

Well, I guess Tail Glow along with STAB Surf, Ice Beam, Grass Knot, and 100 in each stat was too much.

and what's the best nature for ryheperior, cause i wanna use one as a back-up possibly

Well, if you want it to be offensive, pick Adamant and have Swords Dance on it (like my Rhyperior). If you want it to take some physical hits, pick Impish.
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mood4food77

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sounds good

yea, i went onto smogon yesterday and saw only the uber and OU tiers...a lot of stuff i didn't expect happened
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Azumaril is going to have fun with this team, Waterfall takes care of most of the team and Brick Break takes out Blissey.
Forretress? Gengar? Salamence?

I've noticed you only say a certain Pokemon could give my teams trouble if that Pokemon is on your team.

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