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PKT with time changes, or not actually.

plasmid

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When time is slowed down for any reason (Dialga, Clock) PKT 1 still moves at the same speed. Pretty useless though, just kind of interesting.
 

ParanoidDrone

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I've known this for a while, although it doesn't work 100%, as I've slowed down due to a Timer and had PK Freeze/Fire/Thunder slow down with me on rare occasions. What's interesting is that PK Freeze fails at life like this. Since it's moving at normal speed, it's of course blazing fast compared to Lucas, but the timer that tells it to detonate is operating at Lucas's altered speed. So it'll hit the ground and vanish before it has a chance to detonate. I had to use it on top of Luigi's Mansion to see it blow up without falling off screen. And this was without charging it whatsoever.
 

Levitas

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there are a couple of types of clocks: backfiring clocks, clocks that affect everyone, and clocks that only affect opponents of the person who gets it. Global slowdown slows pk thunder iirc, whereas the one that affects opponents does not.
 

ParanoidDrone

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That would explain it. I was grabbing Timers and waiting for one to backfire on me in Training mode, so it's certainly possible that the slowed PK Whatevers were when the CPU slowed down also. Thanks.
 

plasmid

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So it only really works about half the time then? It's not like it matters anyway, and I don't really know what your saying about PK Freeze Paranoid, but it sounds like it sucks.
 

ParanoidDrone

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It's not that it only works half the time, it's that it doesn't work if you grab a Timer that slows everyone down instead of all of your opponents or just you. At least that's what I think Levitas was getting at.

The PK Freeze thing means that it's basically unusable, so yeah, it sucks. =/
 

Levitas

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It's even funnier w/ Ness, for massive fun, do a "cage battle" in a box with a hole open somewhere, put clocks on and use Ness/whoever. Ness's pk thunder is fast enough to actually cover him when he's in slow motion, so it's funny to actually use it against someone who doesn't know about this.

Paranoid drone was exactly right as far as what I meant.
 
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