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Physics problem

psicicle

Smash Ace
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
618
Hi, I wanted to know if there is a flaw in an analogy from the book "elegant universe" by Brian Greene. When he explains relativity, he uses a carnival ride where you spin in a cylinder as an example to explain how space warps. He says that while the ride is spinning, if one person were to measure the circumference of the ride with a ruler, and compare it with the radius of the ride (measured while the ride is spinning), you would get a result different from the 2 pi r rule. He says that the ratio between the circumference and the radius will be greater than 2 pi r.

This is because the ruler contracts when you are measuring the circumference, while as you measure the radius it does not.

The problem is, wouldn't the ride itself contract as well to the same degree as the ruler contracts? So when you measure the circumference of the ride, the outside should measure to be the same whether you are moving or not, since any contraction of the ruler should also apply to the ride itself. And when you measure the radius, you would not feel any contraction, and you would get the same result moving or standing anyway.

What is wrong?
 

HeadISBAgent

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Oct 19, 2006
Messages
149
Location
San Diego//Berkeley
The degree of contraction is dependent on the distance you are from the circumferance, basically in a perfect system the ride and the person in the ride would have to be flat against the surface of the ride to avoid contraction...so measuring with a ruler would be impossible. Yes, the ride will have a degree of contraction but the contraction increases the closer you get to the center of the circle so the rule will contract more.
 
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