Phoenix (from F-Zero) as an SSBB character

[FiErCe_oNi]

i searched, but i couldnt find any phoenix support threads, so heres one.
here is his profile... im not going to write it all out.
Phoenix is a time traveller space police detective that travels to the past via his time machine+overpowered f-zero ship; the Rainbow Phoenix (interesting how it seems to be a reference to the legendary bird pokemon: Ho-oh) so he can stop an event (that we never get to find out about) caused by the F-Zero GX grand prix that would change the history of the universe.

Phoenix is one of the new unlockable characters from F-Zero GX and i see him as the most important of the new GX characters. His machine number is 40 (the last number of all the F-Zero characters) and he is the only one of the new GX characters that has a relationship with another one of the new GX characters, as he created the robot QQQ that is also a playable character in GX.

Phoenix is the only character in the game with a special feature with his machine (which i personally think is the coolest looking machine of all of the F-Zero machines), as the wings on the side of it temporarily spread out as the Rainbow Phoenix boosts. This is probably due to the fact that the machine only runs at 80% of its potential because of its advanced technology from the future that would easily allow it to win every race at max potential.

anyway, enough with information.
i believe Phoenix would be the best character to represent F-Zero AX and the new features of F-Zero GX. I agree that some of the older characters are more deserving, but Phoenix is without a doubt one of the most popular F-Zero characters and i believe his significance is pretty good to.

I cant be bothered to think up a moveset for him (anyone here can go ahead and give it a try, as long as it isnt full of clone moves) because there arent any particular types of moves to base around him and just about all of the other F-Zero characters. there are things that he could have a moveset based around though. the fact that he is a time traveller could contribute alot to his character, as well as the fact that he is futuristic and a space cop. I believe he would have a few martial art moves with the word "Phoenix" in them to (like Captain Falcon's Falcon Punch)

so, what do you think? do you support Phoenix?

 

[shadenexus18]

Phoenix would bring his A-game to SSBB! If he made the roster, then after extensive training he would officially be my main.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

thats weird... i expected more feedback for this thread. oh well... *bump*

 

[MasterShake]

Are you ****ing kidding me....yes! Hell yes Phoenix needs to be in SSBB!

God, to meet someone to finally know who he is...I'm really sad that he won't be in it...even after all the mail i sent nintendo on it.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

Are you ****ing kidding me....yes! Hell yes Phoenix needs to be in SSBB!

God, to meet someone to finally know who he is...I'm really sad that he won't be in it...even after all the mail i sent nintendo on it.

who said it cant happen? i see Phoenix as the 3rd mst deserving after Black Shadow and Goroh. If more than 2 F-Zero characters are going to be in, i think he could auctually be in. also, unlike alot of the other characters, he has some unique features to make a moveset around (time travel? who else can time travel?)
i see his B Up as some sort of time travelling move. his brawl attack could be time freeze or something similar. maybe some of his moves could slow down or speed up how fast the game is going, causing people to be forced to temporarily addaept to different play speeds.

 

[MasterShake]

Well, I wouldn't think Goroh would have a fighter's physique to be in it, and Black Shadow seems a little on the "way too bulky side"....but if they have bowser in it...*shrugs*

I did make a pretend-phoenix character on the gamefaq boards once, cept i used a little too many clone moves. I did put his special moves as a phoenix kick (:/) , a rush attack, a tornado move for ^b (just like in his special movie), and a sort of barrier, which i guess could be somehow associated with time travel.

Geez, i wish more people would support this.

 

[Sculelos]

I would support him, but I would like to see Samuri Gorah, Black Shadow and Deathborn over him, but if they include a fifth F-Zero char I don't mind if he's in.

 

[MasterShake]

No one else supports phoenix for brawl? *tear*

 

[kaid]

Hmm, a time-travel based moveset.

Purely as a theoretical excercise...

^B: Replay. Flashes back to the point he was at 5 seconds ago. (If he was being hit then, he would be flying again.) Cannot act again until he touches the ground.
B: Temporal flicker. Game stops for 2 frames, then continues. 1% to everyone on screen, no knockback. (Like someone had pressed the pause button really quickly, but with damage) No startup time or lag.
<B: Temporal warp. Another version of him appears in front of him, flying foreward from a flash of light as the original dashes foreward and disapears into that flash. Original is invincible from the moment the flash appears... no causing a paradox!
vB: Timeslip: As long as it is held, Phoenix is not in the game. When releaced, he reappears where he left, moving as he left. (He jumped FOREWARD in time) Maximum jump of 6 seconds or so.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I definatly support this,he's my favorite racer from GX/AX,but he was hard to get.

Machine:Rainbow Phoenix

Body:B
Boost:B
Grip:C

I still love F-Zero...^,^

also...

A Phoenix>A Falcon

so...

*edit*:BTW MasterShake,i can totaly see his Up+B a spiral uppercut.=D

Phoenix Punch>Falcon Punch>Chuck Norris.

Lol j/k

 

[Nadji]

Although he is a rather new character I believe its time that Falcon got a another character from the same series. So i'd definately support Pheonix

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

yay! supportive feedback! nice moveset kaid. the moves seem kind of... complicated... but they're pretty cool+unique. i think i got an idea for some moves:

B Up: Time Warp - Hold B to charge up. then release B and the game would literally freeze for a low amount of seconds depending on how long you were holding B. during this freeze period, Phoenix would be able to rapidly travel around the stage (anywhere, even upwards) although noone would be able to see any movement and Phoenix would still be seen frozen from where he executed this move. after the freeze ends, Phoenix would instantly warp to the direction you ended up during the freeze period. this move would count as a recovery move and it would have large lag time if Phoenix lands with it.

B: Phoenix Punch - Phoenix would charge up for a fairly long time compared to other charge punches and then do a very powerful punch. during the period while phoenix charges up the punch, the speed of the game could be altered. holding down would slow down the speed of the game while holding up would speed up the the speed of the game.

 

[shadenexus18]

Bump! If character intros are brought back, his entrance should be to come out of a portal from the future or should stroll on the stage in his Rainbow Phoenix.

 

[kaid]

Hmm... not sure about those. For one, that second attack sounds a lot like Warlock Punch, but with added effects.

My moveset had one move where he jumped foreward in time (vB), one backward WITH causality (<B) One Sands-of-Time Backward "Rewind" (^B), and one move that freezes time just long enough to throw off people's timing.

 

[shadenexus18]

Nice moveset Kaid. As usual, it looks as if you gave your moveset a lot of thought.

 

[FireBomb]

I really want to play as Phoenix but he's TOO HARD to get in GX, and there's no AX machines here so...

Anyways, even though I've never rode on the brilliant Rainbow Phoenix, I support any character from the F-Zero series. Time travel would seem too powerful, but I suppose it's fitting to have him "hold back" at things as it says in his profile. Though, no mater who it is, I'll be happy to see another worthy F-Zero character on Brawl.

Hey...how did you guys unlock him? Your skills must be superior to mine, as I still need this and the Pink Spider...

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

the trick to get him? you have to get through hardest mode on the first story level. its extremely hard. 1 wrong move and you stuffed it up. you should be able to beat it after about... 3 days of attempts :D

 

[FireBomb]

I still don't get why the first chapter is the hardest out of all of them. I'm never going to be this devoted to something again...

You know, seeing how difficult it is to get Phoenix, there may not be many people who even know he exists.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

you know, seeing how lazy people are, there may be people that only know the characters you start off with.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

the trick to get him? you have to get through hardest mode on the first story level. its extremely hard. 1 wrong move and you stuffed it up. you should be able to beat it after about... 3 days of attempts :D

Strange..it only took me 3 hours. =D

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

well i guess i have to congratulate you then?

 

[shadenexus18]

I really want to play as Phoenix but he's TOO HARD to get in GX, and there's no AX machines here so...

Tell me about it, it took me approximately 44 hours to unlock Phoenix. I was thisssss close to giving up, but I really wanted to unlock him.

 

[MasterShake]

FiErCe oNi's pheonix punch would be devastating! All the player would have to do is speed up the game, to either mess up the attack they would perform, or even interrupt recovery *shudder* who said it had to hit?

Plus, if used repeatedly, the attacker has no way of knowing which way time will be altered.

 

[blazefox]

Wow, people who know who Pheonix is. That rocks. Pheonix is the greatest character to ever enter the F-Zero universe. lol ok
Black bull would be too bulky for brawl. period. Deathborn has a chance, considering the videos in GX showing him banishing black shadow with some kind of rod. A start to a move set, BUT! Pheonix could be 100% original kick your butt fun. Time travel? that rocks!
idk my mind is tryin to figure some moves out... then again, dream character for now, but speculating is fun.

Ok: ^B flash kick Pheonix does a rising kick in while the game moves at 2/3 speed if you would, enveloped in sonic waves (from the speed)

vB Pheonix jump does a short"time jump" reappearing in front of him at a controlled distance (tilting the control stick does this). I guess it would look like CF's Falcon kick, but there's no kick involved. When you reapear, if your opponent was between your jump, they get hit by a considerable sonic wave. Sort of like fox illusion but alot cooler. If your in the air he reappears forward but at the drop distance as if he still was falling during the warp. However, his second jump cannot be used again as in the case of CF after this is used.

B Pheonix down Charges forward in slow-mo after a short charge period, rapidly comboing numerous punches (4-6) and finishes it with an uppercut. You can tell I'm a street fighter fan (Ken's Shippu-Jinrai Kyaku move lol)

>B Pheonix charge/dash shoulder bash in slow-mo for a short distance surrounded by sonic waves. In the air this move changes to a slow-motion drop, but you move at he same speed sideways. The time you can use this consecuatively increases after each use (starts at 2 seconds ups by say, 1.5 seconds after each use).

That's all I got for now. lol