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Online Connection....

DarkStar64

Smash Journeyman
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216
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Keystoner_33
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I'm just curious to see how others online experiences are going compared to mine. Personally, I can't stand to play any more than 2 or 3 matches before quitting due to the extremely unreliable and laggy connection. I'm pretty sure my internet connection is alright but I want to know if many others are experiencing extreme lag online?
 

Poppy JR.

Smash Apprentice
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Apr 18, 2015
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Belgium
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I get some lag, but it goes away sometimes. I'm willing to bet that it's just the connection on my end.

I know lag problems were abundant during the 3DS version's launch period, but they seem to have improved since then.
 

derpcube

Smash Apprentice
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Nov 26, 2014
Messages
136
My internet is op, so usually fighting against others is smooth. Most people on smashboards have good connection so I never really lag.
FOR GLORY ON THE OTHER HAND.
 

DarkStar64

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Yeah, when I said online I meant more For Glory specifically, maybe I should just find individual matches on here instead of wasting my time with random matchmaking.
 

CCD23

Smash Cadet
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Feb 11, 2014
Messages
58
Location
Downstate Illinois
I think it all depends on your ISP's internal network, specifically the distance to the node where the traffic escapes said internal network to get out onto the "backbone" of the Internet.

I have somewhat decent evidence to backup my theory since I have the experience of playing on two different Internet connections. I use teching as sort of a baseline standard of comparison.

Up until the first of the year, I lived in an area where I had cable Internet. Internet sites would that would try to guess where I lived got it right. (E.g. "Weather in <town name>" or "Meet singles in <town name>") In addition, when I would run speed tests (specifically at www.speedtest.net ), I would get latencies 20ms or lower with nearby servers. Now, when I played For Glory, yes, I would sometimes have bad connections. But I would also have many matches that had just a little bit of lag, but not so much that it prevented me from playing incompetently. I would also have some matches that honestly felt like the person was playing against me right on my own Wii U. I would honestly say that with around half of the matches I played, I could tech almost every time I wanted to. (Which was pretty much every time I was falling down - that's how I play.)

Now, after the first of the year, I had to move to a small town in northeastern Missouri that only had DSL for "high speed" Internet. Now, with this Internet connection, sites that tried to guess where I was located at always thought that I was located down in a suburb of St. Louis - about 120-140 miles or so from where I live now. Actually, www.speedtest.net thinks I'm near St. Louis too...




When I ran speed tests on this connection, the best latencies I could get would be between 40-45ms. Now, when I try to play For Glory, a majority of the connections I get are just bad. Quite frequently, my opponent and I end up just running past each other and attacking right afterwards, trying to do a running attack. However, I would say about a third or a quarter of the time, the connection between me and the other person is good enough that having a semi-compentent fight is do-able and I can tech at least half of the time. However, I have to sort of "think ahead," take the offensive and assume my attacks will connect while I'm playing to be successful in the match. A small minority of the matches I play (<10%), I can tech about 75-90% of the times I try.

Now, with all of that being said, I started with 1.5Mbps/256Kbps and got it upgraded to 10Mbps/1Mbps in the time I've been living here. I've seen absolutely no difference in the quality of connections and matches I play regardless of this upgrade. From this, I believe it can be concluded that the speeds you're paying for make very little or no difference in the quality of matches you'll get.

Furthermore, when I called my ISP to get my connection upgraded, I talked to a tech about latency issues and about why certain sites think I'm in the St. Louis area. Sure enough, all of the traffic from the small towns get routed into their internal network and get sent down to their node in the St. Louis area. It's also hard telling how many points the data from my modem gets routed through before being sent to the node.

So, basically, if you live in such a location where you are close to your ISP's "exit node", you should see improved latency and better connections... and therefore more "playable" and enjoyable matches! But if you live farther away from your ISP's "exit node"... you will probably won't have as good of an experience. :cry:
 
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GhostUrsa

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Your home setup can help/hinder this as well. For a while, I had only WiFi and due to WiFi saturation (Apartment complexes suck for this) I would get sporadic quality for my matches online at best. When I'd visit my parent's place, I'd actually have better connections on WiFi(who live one hour away, and live a ways from the node. Still was getting a solid connection of 1.5 Mb of their 3Mb connection. I was 40 Mb and only getting 1 Mb. :urg:)

Until I was able to get my provider to fix some lines in my place so i could move my router closer (and then use an Ethernet adapter) I was able to change my QoS settings to boost my average to about 3Mb, which helped but the saturation was still making it bounce too much (During a ping test with testmy.net, in 10 seconds I'd bounce from the Wii U's full strength 10 Mb down to half a Mb).

Now that I have an Ethernet cable, I get a solid 8 Mb from my internet on the Wii U with a 1 Mb variance on average and have had my matches as smooth as butter. (Except when my opponent has terrible connectivity)

TL,DR: If you are on WiFi, identify what is causing your issues (default Router settings, interference, etc), fix what you can (change settings, new position or Ethernet adapter) and accept what you can't (Internet provider's node too far away, or opponent has bad internet). Only real way to prevent lag as much as you can, and be happy.
 

Aphistemi

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I used to lag a lot on for glory, until I got a USB ethernet adapter for my wii u and now my matches have been very smooth, I suggest buying one.
 

Sean²

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If you have to play on WiFi, go into your router settings and look for QoS Setup. Chances are there is a pre-fabricated list of different applications added in by default by the manufacturer. I'd suggest clearing the whole list (because they put in QoS rules for crap like Skype and WoW). You should be able to add a rule for currently connected devices. I'd create a rule for your Wii U and make it the highest priority you can. Then add rules for other home devices and make them a lower priority.

Before I got an ethernet adapter this helped me immensely. If you do get an ethernet adapter, you'll have to recreate your Wii U rule to the adapter's MAC address (It'll appear in connected devices) because QoS will still apply. After this it felt like I was playing offline, and I definitely don't have the best internet connection.
 
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