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On what is really good and about ignoring what others say

CosmicEternity44

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Hello there, everyone. I would like to speak about a few things...

First, I want to say that I do not think being good, as in being nice and doing anything moral is good enough anymore. I mean, we have many people who say they are moral, but they are not intelligent enough to know how to be moral properly. I think we as a society have evolved to the point that morals, or trying to be good, just doesn't cut it anymore. I always thought critical thinking, education and smarts are other things that make people better as people along with doing morals and being nice. Also, being popular just won't cut it either. There are people who are popular who aren't really all that, and popularity is more of an outward appearance and judging by the book by its cover thing than actually knowing what a person actually is. Either way, I think people need to do more research. I do think it is not like people who don't do research actually have that little time to do research, for there is always a possible time to do something. Anyway, I think people looking up to popular people do not realize that they are not really good. In fact, I think such people looking up to the popular leave out what is actually good in their criteria for what is popular, as I don't think the mind actually counts good things much in terms of being popular, as good is a human construct, not something that is automatically there at birth. With that said, I think people have to know what is good and not leave out good in what they should want, and actually be smart about things, for if they are just trying to be good socially, or if the good they want is just based on what they feel or want even if it is actually bad or not a good thing for many others, they aren't automatically or necessarily good without other things that can make them good, for they can still be bad, especially if they don't have the critical thinking or education of proper amount to know such things. I think that some people try to be good so much they end up not knowing how to be good without the know how's, if you know what I mean. That said, I do think society, or any country should re-evaluate or reconsider what is actually good and how to be good. I feel people are just wanting good to be defined and acted in in its most simplest in terms of how it works, with nothing else included. It is kind of like how sciences can improve other skills, like physics with car mechanics, only in the case of what is good, it is different. It is different mainly because of the fact that it can be more essential, and with how society changes over time, I think just being good just does not cut it anymore, and being good and smart, maybe other things, all has to be considered. I do feel like standards need to be updated on that front.

Now, also, you know how people hear the "don't let others get you down" kind of thing? They don't seem to realize that they should still take the bad things people say about them and use it to make themselves better. Just because people may say don't let anyone get you down doesn't mean they should completely ignore them. What does not kill you only makes you stronger. Sticks and stones may break bones but words will never hurt someone. I do not think people realize what don't let others bring you down really means, and I feel it could potentially make people worse as people, and I don't think people can necessarily improve without trying to listen to others. Sure, it might take strength to do, but that is life. You can't properly develop by ignoring everything people say and shutting yourself from what they have to say, especially if you don't like it. People can't do things like improve themselves on their own, and bad things are just a part of life, as is improving on those bad things. I have to say that sadly, too many people are ignoring the bad things and sticking to the good, when the good can't be used by themselves to complete improvements. It is quite sad that people don't seem to realize this. Good and bad are parts of everyday life, and one must be addressed to improve the other, in this case, bad being addressed to improve something into being good. Just like you can't go fast without needing breaks to slow down, or that you can't come down from jumping without gravity, you can't really have anything good without anything bad. I mean, technically speaking, there is no exception to that, no exception to the positives of anything not able to exist without the negative, yet there seem to be many people that seem to make exceptions, especially but not limited to for their own gain. How can people be good and succeed if they don't take what others say to improve themselves at all? Even if they do become successful, that does not mean they are that successful, and if they don't take what others say to improve, they never will be any more successful.

So, what do you all think of this?
 

TheZizz

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This is a lot to unpack. Generally I don't categorize "good from bad apples" especially when someone does something nice for me and resents it later when I don't repay the favor. It may be an issue of incompatibility as I help people from time to time and think nothing of whether or not it ever gets reciprocated. The simple matter is that I did it because I wanted to and that's the end of it. Nobody owes me for my acts of kindness. (At the same time it can be frustrating when they're the ones inquiring and I oblige them time & again, but when the time comes that I could use some help just once, they're MIA. I have grown a certain distaste for excessively needy people who are always wanting and never have enough.)

Indiscriminate malice (including vilifying entire groups as well as sentiments like "F the masses") is the only thing I truly despise even above self-righteous hubris, but other than that, when it comes to people I don't regard John Carpenter's They Live as a documentary where it's an "either/or" situation. Is there a spectrum? Sure, some are "better" (or "less flawed" depending on how you want to look at it), but "worth" or "value" is hardly a single linear metric anyway. There are at least several measures of worth. Every individual knows something that no one else does, namely their personal experience.

As for the specific topic of refining oneself from external feedback, ideally we would be able to benefit from every single voice (whether they have our personal interest in mind, or are just acting on a compulsion to have every member of a community be conducive to a healthy ecosystem), but factoring every criticism is usually counterproductive in my experience. Success that is not aligned with one's criteria for "goodness" is much maligned, understandably. It may be perceived as some injustice of a dysfunctional world, which may or may not be a fair assessment depending on which "world" one looks at, and through which lens.
 
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