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Noob wavedashing method

Quillion

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Do you really want to wavedash but can't get the hang of it? Don't worry.

As you know, wavedashing is sliding by air dodging at an angle towards the ground. Thankfully, you don't have to hit the :GCN: at the same time as :GCLT: or :GCRT: in order to directionally air dodge. As long as you're tilting in a certain direction, you'll air dodge in that direction.

You're probably trying to hit the :GCN: at the same time as :GCLT: or :GCRT:, which is giving you a lot of trouble (and sadly, a lot of tutorials try to make you do this), so I'll make this the simplest, most convenient process of wavedashing:

  1. Just hold:GCDR: (you can change the angle to determine how far you want to go)
  2. Rapidly press :GCX:or :GCY: then :GCLT: or :GCRT:.
    • To spam, just rapidly alternate the jump and airdodge buttons.
    • Each character has a different "rhythm" to wavedashing. Simply practice spamming with your chosen character until you have the timing of the jumpsquat, then the first frame of the leap, then the air dodge, and you're good.
And there you go. Remember: this is a NOOB method, but this serves as a good starting point to greatness.

Now do everyone a favor and please spread this. You may copypaste, or share it with your friends playing friendlies.
 

EddyBearr

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I would recommend against doing this. Using 2 wavedashes in a row is already a pretty poor movement thanks to all the frames of commitment, and it doesn't help any "noobs" actually get better at wavedashing in a game.

It's been almost 10 years since I got wavedashing down, so I can't remember what it was like to learn it, but if I had to learn it now, I would learn it only for very specific situations as those situations came to be regular problems in my gameplay.

For example, I'm currently trying to practice my actionable & invincible ledgedashes because I've been regularly getting stuck in situations where an invincible ledgedash would have saved me. I don't think practicing tech skill that you don't have an immediate use for is useful.
 

Quillion

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I would recommend against doing this. Using 2 wavedashes in a row is already a pretty poor movement thanks to all the frames of commitment, and it doesn't help any "noobs" actually get better at wavedashing in a game.

It's been almost 10 years since I got wavedashing down, so I can't remember what it was like to learn it, but if I had to learn it now, I would learn it only for very specific situations as those situations came to be regular problems in my gameplay.

For example, I'm currently trying to practice my actionable & invincible ledgedashes because I've been regularly getting stuck in situations where an invincible ledgedash would have saved me. I don't think practicing tech skill that you don't have an immediate use for is useful.
Which is why they should only "spam" to get the rhythm down for the character. Not to apply it (which is NOT a noob topic and I don't want to write at length about that).

Besides, a lot of tutorials tend to encourage spamming for initial practice. I don't see how mine's any different.
 
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EddyBearr

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The issue is that these would give the people learning wavedashes some pretty wonky muscle memory, and is designed to be spammed. If spamming something to get it locked into muscle memory, what should be spammed is the proper approach which includes moving the fingers swiftly into the proper positions beforehand; it's probably not a good idea to try to learn something by altering the technique for the sake of spam-learning.
 

Quillion

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this thread is hilarious

wavedashing isnt even that hard
Would you be shocked to believe that people BOTH say that it's not that hard AND like it because it's hard?

Also, no need to be an insufferable donkey (kong) like on that other thread. Trust me, trying to be an a** only ruins your credibility. I've tried.
 

Massive

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Learning to wavedash this way is effectively learning a bad habit.

It is harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to learn the right ones from the beginning (trust me, I know).

Do not take shortcuts or use half-measures when learning the fundamentals, you are trading a very minor gain now for reduced total skill level or a long relearning period in the future.
 
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