Noob Falco Questions

[Sea Legs]

Starting to pick up Falco again and have a few questions that anyone can help me out with

1. When waveshining, do you move the control stick or do you keep it in one position so that it shines yet so that you can wavedash? I try to move the stick, but either I'm too slow or just don't do it right.
2. After I initially shine and jump out of it to start pillaring, I either jump too high and miss my target or jump too low and reach the ground before they do. Is there any way to practice this/ to work with platforms when doing this?
3. I'm on the ledge trying to edgeguard it. I use the c stick to get off the edge, jump and bair, yet instead of grabbing back onto the edge, I fall to my death. What am I doing wrong?

 

[pkblaze]

1. I move the control stick. You CAN keep the control stick in one direction, but the direction that gives you the longest wavedash is also an angle that gives you a side-B.
2. Generally, you want to wavedash out of the shine to follow the person's trajectory, then jump up and spike them down again.
3. Not sure. I'm bad at edgeguarding too, haha.

 

[wezai]

1: It depends, really. It's always good to see where Falco's shine will hit his opponent so you wavedash out of it to the right direction, this is specially good against fast-fallers, since no matter how good their DI is, if you wavedashed to the right direction you will be able to follow up with pillaring or another move. So having a fast read and move the stick is usually what I do.

2: Basically, you need to short hop when pillaring a fast-faller and full hop/double jump when pillaring floaties. The best way to pillar against floaties is by using platforms as well. To practice you need to be able to short hop 100% of the time when you want to actually perform a short hop, pick a character like fox to play against and leave him at 8% or so, from there you can practice pillaring against fast-fallers. After you get the muscle memory and can do this easily without sweating, then ask someone to DI like crazy. That will help you to wavedash out of shine to the right direction (in short, when your shine hits one side of your opponent, always wavedash to the opposite direction. If you hit their left side, go to the right side, vice-versa).

To pillar floaties just choose a stage with platforms like battlefield or dreamland. You should be aiming to hit a shine, double jump to reach their altitude (they go quite high), and then use Dair and fast fall. They will still be stunned due to the spike so make sure you L-Cancel your Dair when landing, then use up-tilt or shine depending of the situation. After that you can just make your own follow up.

One thing to always remember is that the more % your opponents have, the higher they go when you shine. If fox is going way up after you used shine and a short hopped Dair isn't able to catch him, it means his % is already too high for you to use pillaring.

3: If you aren't able to grab the ledge again it means you are using Bair too late. You have to be faster, the sooner you Bair the easier it is to grab the ledge.