no shield grabbing?

[GNKyrios]

how can u prevent this other than tweaking the shieldstun? some characters can abuse this too much(rob, dedede..etc), more with the pseudo super-armor u get sometimes when grabbing, it seems like when u attack someone with their shield up, u are more vulnerable than them.

i thought "disallow specific interrupt" would work, but thats only to cancel a previous "allow speciffic interrupt", or because is a game mechanism it cant be changed? since grab is shield+attack it cancels shielding right away with a grab.

 

[standardtoaster]

You don't want to have shield grabbing be able to happen? I'll get that done later today.

 

[GNKyrios]

You don't want to have shield grabbing be able to happen? I'll get that done later today.

yup pretty much that

 

[standardtoaster]

No Shield Grabbing [Standardtoaster]
06FC20F0 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC20F8 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC2100 00000008
00020000 00000000

 

[GNKyrios]

thanks alot, im gonna test it and post results.

 

[Claire Diviner]

The removal of shield grabs? I guess it would have helped me since it took me until earlier this year to figure it out on my own (how embarassing). I can imagine it changing gameplay dramatically. Though, of course not legal competitively, I'm dying to see the results myself.

 

[GNKyrios]

works flawless.

now if only there was individual hitstun...

 

[standardtoaster]

You could toy around with these i guess.

All values taken are floating points.

Shield Max [spunit262]
04B88440 XXXXXXXX
Default 42480000 (50)

Shield Reset [spunit262]
04B88458 XXXXXXXX
Default 41f00000 (30)

Shield Loss [spunit262]
04B88450 XXXXXXXX
Default 3E8F5C29 (0.28)

Shield Gain [spunit262]
04B88454 XXXXXXXX
Default 3D8F5C29 (0.07)

Shield damage ratio [spunit262]
04B8847C XXXXXXXX
Default 3E99999A (0.3)
attack_damag*(1-X)=shield_damage

Shield Size [spunit262]
80B88478 XXXXXXXX

 

[GNKyrios]

i was talking about the recovery time, that "hitstun", thats the only thing left that IMO inbalances the game, has anyone got a kick of light to the face while trying to combo zelda? (this on brawl mods with increased hitstun not vbrawl).

 

[GNKyrios]

hey standardtoaster, im having some troubles with the code, it randomly freezes when using lucario and u cant start tournament fights, it freezes too.

about lucario at first it doesnt happen or its rare, but when u play for a while it always freezes at a random time during the fight. If i load the game without the code it doesnt happen.

 

[standardtoaster]

With this code?

No Shield Grabbing [Standardtoaster]
06FC20F0 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC20F8 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC2100 00000008
00020000 00000000

This could not be the cause of a freeze in tournament fights, and lucario shouldn't freeze doing sideB because that it isn't a shield grab. It must be some other code you are using.

 

[GNKyrios]

With this code?

No Shield Grabbing [Standardtoaster]
06FC20F0 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC20F8 00000008
00020000 00000000
06FC2100 00000008
00020000 00000000

This could not be the cause of a freeze in tournament fights, and lucario shouldn't freeze doing sideB because that it isn't a shield grab. It must be some other code you are using.

yep with that code, im also using all the codes from brawl+, dunno if it gives some conflict that way. And about lucario it doesnt freeze with sideB it freezes at a random time during the fight, not due to a move, music still plays tho. And i loaded brawl+ without the code and both lucario and tournament works fine

 

[standardtoaster]

Okay, then that's just weird. My code does not touch anything anywhere in memory other than 3 lines in fighter.pac. I really don't see why it would crash. O.o

 

[GNKyrios]

Okay, then that's just weird. My code does not touch anything anywhere in memory other than 3 lines in fighter.pac. I really don't see why it would crash. O.o

maybe u can try load the latest brawl+ with the code and check the tournament, to be sure its the code.

 

[Revven]

Tournament mode probably freezes because of Brawl+ and not because of the code. I remember that being a complaint.

 

[GNKyrios]

*edit2:

so i tracked down the issue, i disabled everything one at a time, custom textures, stages, music, character pacs, and still got freeze, but after chaging the RSB01.gct, for the original one from brawl+ it didnt freeze, the one i was using was one posted in some topic around here claiming it was the lastest version, so i used that one to add the code standardtoaster made(this time tested without the code), but now i see that code list gives the issues, maybe is from a previous version.

so now that i have what causes the problem, the question is, is there any codelist for the last version of brawl+ around? (7.0.3 shinning gold) without it i dont think i can add the code, unless the "unknown codes" from the GCTedit software doesnt give a problem and i can still add it there.

 

[standardtoaster]

The brawl+ txt is here. http://www.smashmods.com/downloads/brawlplus/RSBE01.txt

If what falco400 says is true, that B+ had issues with tourney mode, then that makes me feel a lot better. Although do you still have an issue with lucario?

 

[GNKyrios]

The brawl+ txt is here. http://www.smashmods.com/downloads/brawlplus/RSBE01.txt

If what falco400 says is true, that B+ had issues with tourney mode, then that makes me feel a lot better. Although do you still have an issue with lucario?

no, your code was fine, the problem was the codeset i got, i got the same one from your link, and i compiled it with ocarina manager, and it gives that odd freeze with lucario(may be with others characters, dont know, just using him as an example), but if i use the gct file u download from the brawl+ page, everything works fine, keep in mind that i even used the txt on the link and compiled it as gct without your code, and freezes, im starting to think that txt isnt the same as the last gct on the website, that one says "final gold" and last one is "shining gold"

so i think ill try adding your code with GCTedit, so i open the gct that works and not that txt

oh and about the tournament, i been playing them for months without a single problem, but i noticed that if u have 2 cpu and u want to watch the fight it "semi-freezes", because u can reset or even enter home menu.

PS: like i said before i discarded everything else as the issue, since i removed everything custom i had, and only loaded the txt on the link compiled as gct(with all the rest of brawl+ files), and it freezed, then i put back my modded lucario with the original gct from brawl+ and it worked fine.