DunnoBro
The Free-est
So I've been labbing uthrow for a while, and had mixed results. Sometimes it worked well, sometimes it didn't at all, getting me punished hard. Now I FINALLY understand why uthrow works when it does.
IT ONLY WORKS WITH DI OUT.
If they DI In or no DI, then they go directly above Mario. Making SJP impossible to connect, and they retain the ability to drift in front or behind Mario. Making it difficult to pin them down. However, with DI out SJP covers airdodge/jump and most attacks due to SJP's insane priority and speed. If they airdodge, dair/fair/uair also easily kill this high up or over the ledge.
Why is this important if they can just DI IN and Mario can get nothing? Well, if they DI in Dthrow in then death is just to fair, uair, dair, sjp similarly. So it's a real mix-up.
In my experience, it works BEST when you're by the ledge and they know about Dthrow > Fair so they DI out.
Example of what I mean: https://gfycat.com/GraveWaterloggedArmednylonshrimp
Note how Marth DI'd downthrow out so I couldn't get ANYTHING. But then he DI'd Uthrow out, which made SJP kill even better (killed off side). Now, he could airdodge but then dair/fair could kill. Or uair at higher percent.
Also note: It's less effective vs quick or high jumpers such as Falco, Greninja, ZSS since they can more easily escape SJP with just their jump. As well as characters with moves that beat SJP, such as Cloud or Bowser Dair. So it has varying effectiveness, but does work in many matchups.
Feel free to ask any questions, but if you don't believe it's real I won't be trying to prove it to you.
IT ONLY WORKS WITH DI OUT.
If they DI In or no DI, then they go directly above Mario. Making SJP impossible to connect, and they retain the ability to drift in front or behind Mario. Making it difficult to pin them down. However, with DI out SJP covers airdodge/jump and most attacks due to SJP's insane priority and speed. If they airdodge, dair/fair/uair also easily kill this high up or over the ledge.
Why is this important if they can just DI IN and Mario can get nothing? Well, if they DI in Dthrow in then death is just to fair, uair, dair, sjp similarly. So it's a real mix-up.
In my experience, it works BEST when you're by the ledge and they know about Dthrow > Fair so they DI out.
Example of what I mean: https://gfycat.com/GraveWaterloggedArmednylonshrimp
Note how Marth DI'd downthrow out so I couldn't get ANYTHING. But then he DI'd Uthrow out, which made SJP kill even better (killed off side). Now, he could airdodge but then dair/fair could kill. Or uair at higher percent.
Also note: It's less effective vs quick or high jumpers such as Falco, Greninja, ZSS since they can more easily escape SJP with just their jump. As well as characters with moves that beat SJP, such as Cloud or Bowser Dair. So it has varying effectiveness, but does work in many matchups.
Feel free to ask any questions, but if you don't believe it's real I won't be trying to prove it to you.
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