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Ness is Gone, yet he could stay.

Masterem243

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Lucas was absent from the demo at E for All, right? Well, what if his alternate costume is Ness?
 

Masterem243

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Don't forget about Dark Meta Knight, Fire Mario, and DK as a Yeti. Oh, and Golden Bowser.
 

Lord SeBz

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i meant the ones that turn into different characters (fire mario is still mario, and DK is just albino)
 

maxieman

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Oh man im gonna love playin as fire mario XP

Ive wanted too since SSB64 (strange that luigi had a fire luigi outfit in that game o.O)
 

Masterem243

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No, actually, it's a callback to the CGI Donkey Kong Series, to a gorilla character with white fur, just like DK's alternate costume.
 

Masterem243

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No problem. But the point of this thread is that Ness still has a chance to be in Brawl, but with a much more minor role.
 

Masterem243

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Worse comes to worse, Ness won't be wearing his hat, and he'll have bedhead, kind of like Lucas. Plus, Lucas' face and clothing are very similar to Ness', except for in color.
 

Gilgamesh

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Stop making threads about it. There's already one and it's more than enough.

Also, there is another topic discussing the possibility of alternate costumes.
 

2.72

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link/dark link, fox/wolf, diddy kong/dixie kong...
Those are all recolors. In particular, THERE IS NO WOLF COSTUME. IT IS JUST A RECOLOR OF FOX. IT IS NO MORE A WOLF COSTUME THAN MARIO'S GREEN COSTUME IS A LUIGI COSTUME.

If you're still having trouble believing that, see this post.

If we do get more than recolors for alternate costumes, I think that Ness would be one of the first costume characters. Otherwise, we'll probably get an AT of him. It's possible that get gray fox and pink diddy will be replaced by actual Wolf and Dixie costumes, assuming that those two characters aren't in the game that we do end up with more than recolors.
 

Masterem243

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In all the Lucas threads, I didn't see anyone discussing the possibility of Ness being an alternate costume.
 

Masterem243

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Those are all recolors. In particular, THERE IS NO WOLF COSTUME. IT IS JUST A RECOLOR OF FOX. IT IS NO MORE A WOLF COSTUME THAN MARIO'S GREEN COSTUME IS A LUIGI COSTUME.

If you're still having trouble believing that, see this post.

If we do get more than recolors for alternate costumes, I think that Ness would be one of the first costume characters. Otherwise, we'll probably get an AT of him. It's possible that we'll get gray fox and pink diddy replaced by actual Wolf and Dixie costumes, assuming that those two characters aren't in the game that we do end up with more than recolors.
While you do provide a valid point, you can't say that that white streak in Fox's forehead is coincediental. That's almost a carbon copy of Wolf!
 

Zek

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So far, there are no alternate costumes. It would be nice if Sakurai made an exception for Lucas as a nod to Ness fans though.
 

smashmaniac16

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Does any one remember that one update where it says "while lucas is timid in nature, he fights splindidly. is is possible he can even surpass ness"

theres only one way to find out! Will Ness be in brawl
 

Masterem243

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But you don't understand! There are alternate costumes! He just hasn't said anything about it on the site yet!
 

DiscoShark

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No problem. But the point of this thread is that Ness still has a chance to be in Brawl, but with a much more minor role.
You're jumping the gun on this issue, Nintendo hasn't flat out said Lucas replaces Ness. The possibility is there that with Lucas's completely different standard attacks Nintendo could be building Ness a new special attacks palette, one that actually fits the character that he is.
 

Masterem243

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You're jumping the gun on this issue, Nintendo hasn't flat out said Lucas replaces Ness. The possibility is there that with Lucas's completely different standard attacks. Nintendo could be building Ness a new special attacks palette, one that actually fits the character that he is.
There's more evidence that Ness is gone, then vice versa.
 

Masterem243

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Very convincing recolors! You can't tell me that Fox's recolor doesn't not look 100% like Wolf!
 

Jackal478

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There is already an official alt costume.

Daisy.

and sort of these

Wolf.

Dixie.(sorta)

I think Ness will be an alt and that's why lucas wasnt in the demo
 

Syzygy

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There are no alternate costumes. Period. Stop saying there are.

There are recolors. Fox's 'wolf' color is simply a darker shade of fox... he's got the same clothes, the same eyepiece... he's fox. Gimpy confirmed this, 2.72 posted the link. A true alternate costume would mean a change in the actual model of the character, possibly even a change in what the game displays and the announcer says. Yes, Peach has a 'daisy-like' color scheme, but she is still Peach.

We haven't seen alts yet... but there's no reason to think that they can't exist... we've only seen the demo.
 

FlatSoda

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There are no alternate costumes. Period. Stop saying there are.

There are recolors. Fox's 'wolf' color is simply a darker shade of fox... he's got the same clothes, the same eyepiece... he's fox. Gimpy confirmed this, 2.72 posted the link. A true alternate costume would mean a change in the actual model of the character, possibly even a change in what the game displays and the announcer says. Yes, Peach has a 'daisy-like' color scheme, but she is still Peach.

We haven't seen alts yet... but there's no reason to think that they can't exist... we've only seen the demo.

Uhm, sorry to say but in Melee, the "Daisy" Costume was indeed different. Peach's Necklace was replaced with Daisy's. Looks more like recoloring to me.

Not much, but hey.
 

Syzygy

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Wolf has a pointier head and ears, eyepiece is different and is on the other eye, more pointed eyes, different headgear, and completely different clothes to name a few.

Sorry I can't find any high-quality pics of the grey fox, the quality is way to low on the youtube videos.
 
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