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Needles

RyNo 86

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I've been watching some vids on YouTube and I've noticed that the people that are shiek aren't really using the needles to there full extent. So if anyone has any stratagies for the needles or anything of the likes leave some tips.
 

Wilhelmsan

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Needles are incredibly useful for a few things.

1_Needle->Grab - use charged needles to stun the enemy, then grab. Sheik's tall shorthop works awesome with this tactic. You can also do this from a platform, as you probably already know.

2_Needle Edgeguard - Sheik is one of only a handful of characters that can effectively edgeguard Samus. This is how. Destroying Samus's bombs (which is remarkably easy to do) is satisfying, but needles can gimp many recoveries. Both used horizontally and vertically, they can cover quite a vast area. Falco, CF, Ganon, Samus, IC, Peach, Marth, and Doc are just a few examples of frequently used tourney characters that all can fall to the needle edgeguard.

3_Camping - Sheik is god of camping platforms. Ever want to beat a good IC player? You'll need to do this.
 

aaronoog

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1. Store needles. Sheild when fully charged. Then use them later.

2. Use a needle when your oponent is rushing torards you. He'll be stopped in a most annoying way.

3. Pull one out in the middle of close combat. If your oponent isn't quite fast, it will disrupt his flow.
 

brickman

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Don't fail to neglect reverse needles, and their edge hogging abilities. The tactic of reverse needling mid combat or to fight them off the stag is very interesting. It will usually throw them off a bit, depending on their experience level. It can also be used when you wave land across a platform into a reverse needle needle storm, with a combo ensuing, depending on what character you are playing against/number of needles that hit them/percent/location, etc.

Needle skills are essential for effectively breaking the flow of any character who is approaching or is in "the zone". Being able to more efficiently use needles in this way should progress your sheik.

As far as other uses of needles, most have been mentioned above.

Needle camping, edge guard (against Fox/Falco), needle grab.

Things not to do.

Don't spam needles while on the ground. The throw animation is pretty lengthy, and if you are not throwing a lot of needles out there and aren't sure one of them isn't going to hit, you probably shouldn't. Chances are you are going to get a smash attack to the face/throw combo, etc. It is important to know the overall angles of the needles, distance they travel, distance they travel if/when they are reflected. Also make sure you know how many needles you have. If you become predictable with your needle usage you may be getting one back to the face.

It is important to usually throw an even amount of needles in order to prevent the chances of being struck by one of them if they are power shielded, shined. The even amount of needles will cancel out each other and the counter assault will be void.

All in all, needles are great for mind games, advanced tactics, and can be generally fun and flashy (yet effective). It is important not to over use needles, as I'm sure most people know Sheik possesses an innumerable amount of other awesome moves.

All things in moderation, even moderation. Sometimes mix it up with a little bit of needle spamming, just to piss your opponent off.
 
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