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Seriaxe

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 6, 2008
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111
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Australia, Western Australia, Perth
Hi, I need help killing heavy characters like Snake, and Bowser, I have lost like 10 times to my friend who mains King Dedede, I try everyway to attack him but he never flys far when i attack him. Shuttle loop is too hard to hit with, and i always seem to miss. Give me some advice please!

:confused::confused::confused:
 

HolyForce

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Mar 10, 2008
Messages
203
Location
OH, USA
Shuttleloop takes practice to get real good at. I think my personal best skill with MK (so I've been complimented even by strangers) is SL accuracy and tricks. The rest of my game is merely above average in most areas and being worked on, in my opinion. All this, and I still kill many heavies.

Against the heavier characters, remember they are tall. Things like full hop foward air are good options, like against a Grenade-holding Snake. You can get all 3 hits to connect to his upper chest/face, without blowing the nade on yourself, rather easily.

Meta's running grab is key here, too. Get good with it. You can grab these guys like crazy for an easy 11% down throw plus potential follow-ups.

For KO stick with down smash, neutral air and Shuttleloop. Tech chase forward smash is an option.

Any specific things/setups/etc you feel your friend DeDeDe is doing you can't beat?
 

JJR.O.B.

Smash Ace
Joined
May 10, 2008
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580
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With all the other R.O.B.s
gimp with the dair

against Snake if he uses his Upb close to the stage, grab him

then dont attack him or throw just let him escape from your grab and he will fall and not get his upb back
 

HolyForce

Smash Journeyman
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Mar 10, 2008
Messages
203
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OH, USA
Yeh. Remember Snake cannot jump off his cypher for a good couple seconds after he uses it (UP+B).

Therefore, you can easily kill him by Shuttlelooping "outwards" (facing away from the map) right in his face. It will send him max potential flying off the map, and your "loop" will hit the cypher letting you recover to the map.
 

Protathlitis

Smash Cadet
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
50
Location
San Jose, CA
Killing heavy characters with Metaknight is a tough job. However, a quick neutral a can penetrate snake on his cipher or Dedede at the top of his B-up, allowing you to finish them. Try to get a tippered down smash at the edge of the stage if at all possible. Lastly, don't forget to shuttle loop snake with the forward hit like Holyforce said (using it against Dedede will often punish you instead).
 

boom-man97

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Dec 16, 2006
Messages
224
Location
NJ
dont use your down smash untill they get into killing range, get them close to the edge, Dsmash, win
 
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