Need Olimar Tips :)

[eaglith]

Hello this is Eaglith, and this is my first post. I started out with Diddy Kong, as a main, but I found to be much better with Olimar. Here are my vids, there are three (it's a 2 out of 3 match) against Pokemon trainer. I just need a few tips for using Olimar Thank you.

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0yIdYr0vIg (the next two vids have better quality)

2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y60vFFw0r1M&feature=related

3. http://youtube.com/watch?v=yl41iWBYj2A&feature=related (my fave)

 

[really_calm]

I don't think you should be approaching with his dair. It's not all that safe. If Olimar has any weakness, it's his ability to be juggled.

Also you missed some opportunities to gimp ivysaur.

 

[eaglith]

Thank you for the tips. I need to learn how to edge guard, I never bothered edge-guarding in melee, I used peach. Also, I think i need to improve my Down B, as a way to stop the flinch.

 

[DeathNote]

To gimp Ivysaur just jump off the ledge, and use your Up-B... his up-B cant get him back on the ledge when you are on it

 

[eaglith]

I tried that out, thanks

 

[Zellsfalco]

All u have to do is stop being a noob -.-
Stop using his Dair! ur too predictable

 

[batsman415]

All u have to do is stop being a noob -.-
Stop using his Dair! ur too predictable

Somebody is being a d-bag................

 

[NC-Echo]

Smashboards is laggy so I accidentally double posted. Check out the post below.

 

[Kabuto Mushi]

I have a few suggestions so here goes:

[*]You seem to roll a lot, maybe this is just melee still influencing me but I really think you shouldn't do it so much.
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erm, why is this again? I tend to roll around alot, too... Fear of being grabbed, maybe?

 

[NC-Echo]

I have a few suggestions so here goes:

• Like has previously been said, you really shouldn't D-air so much, it's Olimar's laggiest aerial and really is not good to approach with.
• You shouldn't approach with F-B, its a great move to spam but you should pull back after you use it and not jump straight at your opponent and do it; I saw several where you got punished because you approached with the F-B.
• I understand that some people like to attack with U-B (personally I rarely use it but different strokes, right?), however you used it a few times in the air, missed and then was either punished or just missed an opportunity to attack.
• You seem to play a very offensive game and thats fine I like to play aggressively myself but I believe that if you played a little more defensively you would do a lot better. Almost all of Olimars aerials have very little priority so if you want to play aggressively than you need to know what moves to use. Charizard, for example, should not do that well against Olimar, you really would do a lot better if you kept your distance.
• Olimar isn't great at edge-guarding but all you need to do against Ivysaur is edge-hog.
• Olimar has an amazing grab and you really don't seem to use it. In the second match I saw Ivysaur running-A you 3 or 4 times and all you would have needed to do was shield grab. Also you can grab Squirtle out of his withdrawal (F-B).
• You seem to roll a lot, maybe this is just melee still influencing me but I really think you shouldn't do it so much.
• Like a previous poster said, try not to be so predictable; after watching the first match I felt like I could easily predict how the second and third would play out.

All together your not a bad player but you really should work on your approach. Pokemon Trainer can be a difficult match, Squirtle in particular, but its not nearly as hard as your videos make it look.

erm, why is this again? I tend to roll around alot, too... Fear of being grabbed, maybe?

A good player will find ways to punish rolling, especially if used excessively.

 

[Zellsfalco]

LOL Eag remember these tips for the next time i play u but instead of u and Agent it will be U and Zell^ Son!
Naw but seriously u really gotta stop being so predictable and grab more often :D Like Falco :D

 

[eaglith]

Thanks a lot NC-Echo... Over the past week I've been playing Brawl I thought the thing I need most to change is my defensive strategy.

I tend to roll a lot, mostly from being a Smash Veteran (I played friendly's with mates over the 6 to 7 years it was out), and basically I grew up on rolling around. One thing I need to master, is spamming SideB, and when they approach me, I use his various, powerful smashes. I think im too aggresive and using is Air moves excessively.

Thanks for the tips, I haven't played Multiplayer in a couple days, but goin to my mates house today and ima try out some new tricks. haha

 

[Zellsfalco]

LMAO So much for that idea ehh?

 

[Nick A]

Spot dodge --> Dsmash = broken

abuse the **** outta that

 

[eaglith]

I got my wireless working! my friend code is in my sig... pls pm me your friend code thankx!!!!! zomg im so excited.

 

[asob4]

I have a few suggestions so here goes:

• Like has previously been said, you really shouldn't D-air so much, it's Olimar's laggiest aerial and really is not good to approach with.
• You shouldn't approach with F-B, its a great move to spam but you should pull back after you use it and not jump straight at your opponent and do it; I saw several where you got punished because you approached with the F-B.
• I understand that some people like to attack with U-B (personally I rarely use it but different strokes, right?), however you used it a few times in the air, missed and then was either punished or just missed an opportunity to attack.
• You seem to play a very offensive game and thats fine I like to play aggressively myself but I believe that if you played a little more defensively you would do a lot better. Almost all of Olimars aerials have very little priority so if you want to play aggressively than you need to know what moves to use. Charizard, for example, should not do that well against Olimar, you really would do a lot better if you kept your distance.
• Olimar isn't great at edge-guarding but all you need to do against Ivysaur is edge-hog.
• Olimar has an amazing grab and you really don't seem to use it. In the second match I saw Ivysaur running-A you 3 or 4 times and all you would have needed to do was shield grab. Also you can grab Squirtle out of his withdrawal (F-B).
• You seem to roll a lot, maybe this is just melee still influencing me but I really think you shouldn't do it so much.
• Like a previous poster said, try not to be so predictable; after watching the first match I felt like I could easily predict how the second and third would play out.

All together your not a bad player but you really should work on your approach. Pokemon Trainer can be a difficult match, Squirtle in particular, but its not nearly as hard as your videos make it look.

QFT
everything he said but with more emphasis on grabbing
he has a great grab game that can lead to so many combo opportunities
and remember, platforms are your friends

 

[Phaazoid]

well, my one piece of advice would be to spice up your game by grabbing a little more, your approaches are too predictable and olimars grab range is insane, plus the throws can kill at higher percents. and your down smash is a good move to get some distance, it comes out fast, small to no lag, covers both sides, and is strong, too.

 

[Sikarios]

Spot dodge --> Dsmash = broken

abuse the **** outta that

QFT, I rack up all my %'s with this move and Fsmash. Olimar is SO tiny and nonthreatening that some of my noob friends want to outright ban Olimar due to my dodge to Dsmash abuse.

Also, since this is a tip thread:

Does anyone have any good tips for getting out more Pikmin when you've killed/lost them all and a troublesome Pit/Toon Link/Marth won't leave you alone for enough time to pull? What moves DOES Olimar have when he's Pikminless?

 

[Phaazoid]

he's got all his tilts, his standard a combo, and his nuetral air. i suggest spamming th n air untill you can get to a safe spot, the down tilt is a got poke, and the uptilt is good for breaking up combos. i find when in a tough situation you only need to pluck 1 pikmin and then use it to get some attacks in, once you've distanced your self then try for a few more, but it almost takes no time to just pluck one.

 

[Sikarios]

he's got all his tilts, his standard a combo, and his nuetral air. i suggest spamming th n air untill you can get to a safe spot, the down tilt is a got poke, and the uptilt is good for breaking up combos. i find when in a tough situation you only need to pluck 1 pikmin and then use it to get some attacks in, once you've distanced your self then try for a few more, but it almost takes no time to just pluck one.

Ah, that makes sense, I haven't tried the "pluck one" method. Or pluck at least two for the Dsmash.

 

[DGMavn]

Pluck one, take the hit, grab, throw, pick more.

 

[eaglith]

Picking them takes almost no time, so even just picking two as they approch you won't be a problem. Two is best for me, because down smash and forward smash is good for getting them away.