Necessary Updates List

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I sort of revised the list. There's NEW and OLD lists. OLD is for stuff we already know: stuff revealed at E For All or from previous games. NEW is stuff we know will come but we don't know anything about.

CERTAIN (OLD)
Final Smashes
Zero Suit Samus
Sonic

How To Play: Smash 101
Item Grabbing and Throwing
Quick Grab

How To Play: Techniques
Airdodge
Crawling
Swimming
Meteor Smashes/Interrupting the opponent/edgeguarding
Stairclimbing (still a bit... edgy. I dunno - stairclimbing just seems so obvious.)

Game Modes
Kirby and Peach on the Halberd video
Donkey VS Bowser video
Pit VS Primid video
Pit meets Mario video
Item Switch
Powering up in the SSE (seen on the Team update)

Items
Assist Trophy: Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Assist Trophy: Infantry and Tanks (Advance Wars)
Assist Trophy: Metroid (Metroid)
Assist Trophy: Jill (Drill Dozer)
Pokéball: Kyogre
Pokéball: Bonsly
Pokéball: Latios/Latias
Pokéball: Torchic
Pokéball: Gardevoir
Spike Ball
Deku Nut
Spring Board
Lightning

Total: 24
Left: 22

UNCERTAIN (OLD) (Obviously stuff that I dunno if they'll get added to the DOJO!!)

How To Play: Smash 101
How to use the Classic Controller
How to use the Gamecube Controller
How to use the Wiimote + Nunchuk
Tripping (Like teching, I don't think it'll get an appearance. It just seems... like a little extra thing.)

How To Play: Techniques
Teching? (It wasn't in the How To Play video on both 64 and Melee...)
Walljumping? (see above)
C-Stick? (not sure if this was in the How To Play videos.)

Game Modes
Adventure? (Probably replaced with SSE)
All-Star? (Might be scrapped to save place for SSE)
Boss: Rayquaza (is he really a boss...?)
Statistics (I really hope they'll be easier to understand this time around. Maybe a bit more flashy.)
Records
Coins

Stages
'Arena' (Will we able to play on this stage or is it SSE exclusive? I'm thinking we'll be able to play on it.)

Items
Pokéballs from previous installments (And I was right..)
Items from previous installments 2? (and so on? I wouldn't be suprised.)

Total: 16
Left: 12

CERTAIN (NEW)
Special Moves
Kirby
Pikachu
Zelda
Samus
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Peach
Ice Climbers

Final Smashes
Wario
Zelda
Lucas
King Dedede
Snake

Stages
Mario Circuit
A Sonic stage (Green Hill Zone?)

Items
Clock
Soccer Ball

Music
Mario music
Donkey Kong music
MOTHER music
Ice Climbers music
Sonic music

Total: 23
Left: 17

UNCERTAIN (NEW)

Stages
Stages for each respective character instead of each respective franchise.
'The Haunted Mansion' (does it or does it not exist?)

Items
- Donkey Kong AT (Unknown)
- Star Fox AT (Andross)
- Kirby AT (Knuckle Joe)
- F-Zero AT (Samurai Goroh)
- Metroid AT (Metroid)
- MOTHER AT (Unknown)
- Zelda AT (Unknown)
- Mario AT (Still needs a new one with its own update, no Hammer Bro. or Lakitu)
- Yoshi AT (Unknown)
- Fire Emblem AT (Lyn)
- Icon 13 AT (Unknown)
- Ice Climbers AT (Unknown)
- Animal Crossing AT (Mr. Resetti)
- Wario AT (Unknown)
- Metal Gear AT (Gray Fox)
- Kid Icarus AT (Unknown)
- Icon 19 AT (Unknown)
- Sonic AT (Unknown)
- DS/Touch Generations (?) AT (Unknown)

Music
Accredited Musicians:

Akihiro Honda - Metal Gear Solid: MGS4 Love Theme
Kenichi Okuma - Pokémon: Pokémon Stadium/Evolution
Kenji Ito - Star Fox: Space Armada
Koji Kondo - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Masafumi Takada - Yoshi Story: Ending
Michiko Naruke - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Minako Hamano - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
Noriyuki Iwadare - Kirby: Meta Knight’s Revenge
Shogo Sakai - Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme, Kid Icarus: The Underworld, Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme
Tomoko Sasaki - WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme
Toru Minegishi - Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider!
Yuka Tsujiyoko - Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme
Yusuke Takahama - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
Hirokazu Tanaka. Ex - Donkey Kong ("He wasn’t included on the list of musicians until now, but he secretly joined the fray!")
Yusuke Takahama - X: Tunnel Scene
Toshiyuki Sudo - Ice Climber

UNaccredited Musicians:

Arata Iiyoshi
Asuka Ohta
Hajime Wakai
Jun Fukuda
Kazumi Totaka
Keigo Ozaki
Kenji Yamamoto
Kentaro Ishizaka
Koji Hayama
Masaaki Iwasaki
Masato Kouda
Motoi Sakuraba
Ryoji Yoshitomi
Seiji Momoi
Shota Kageyama
Takahiro Nishi
Toshiyuki Sudo - Ice Climber!
Tsukasa Masuko
Yasufumi Fukuda
Yasunori Mitsuda
Yoko Shimomura
Yutaka Iraha
Yuzo Koshiro

Reason that's all in uncertain is because I think we're getting one music sample for each franchise.

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That's it for now. If anybody sees something I forgot to add, do tell. Remember it's for old stuff that we already know about, not stuff that might be changed.

 

[GreenKirby]

Crawling

THey still haven't explained that.

 

[Betrayed]

Needs more Captain Falcon.

 

[miller483]

I really hope there's a "How to use Wii remote and Nunchuk" update.

 

[Drake3]

Good lord, I didn't realise there were that many.

 

[Classic-Black]

Stamina.

Sakurai said that acted independently of the damage percentile. more details would be nice

 

[Demon Kirby]

Needs more Captain Falcon.

Luigi too.

...

Something tells this is gonna be a borring week...

 

[trio1000]

did he already explain tilt atacks?

also good thread thanks and where is the bowser v dk video? havent seen that one

 

[dookieSMASH]

you forgot the special move sets that still need confirmation (which unfortunately adds a lot more)

Special Moves:
Kirby
Pikachu
Samus
Zelda
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Peach
IC

FS to come (that we dont know):
Zelda
Wario
Snake
Lucas
King Dedede

Edit: good start to the list though dutchmen, ive been thinking about this lately

 

[dookieSMASH]

god dammmmm, were looking at approx. 40 updates that are all previous info/for gone conclusion

thats 8 WEEKS!!!

ballz

how many update days do we have before the japan release date?

 

[trio1000]

oh i just remembered metal boxes

 

[dookieSMASH]

almost forgot about stages too, like the Mario Kart lvl weve already seen in clips, as well as stages for characters that are already confirmed. (every character has their own stage, thats a pretty safe assumption from Melee, right?)

Visually Confirmed stages:

Mario Kart stage


Confirmed Characters w/o confirmed stages:

Kirby stage (assuming Halberd is for, duh, Metaknight)
King Dedede stage
Pikachu/Pokemon Trainer stage (only Pokemon Stadium conf, one additional poke stage to be added))
Another Kong stage (1 for both Donkey and Diddy)
Another Hyrule stage(for zelda/link)
2 more mushroom kingdom stages (bowser and peach)



thats 9 more stages that could be expected.

 

[DraginHikari]

Actually I'm kinda of curious to see the Wii mote + Nunchuck setup.

 

[:034:]

This is a list for useless stuff that we already know about. I'll make a list of the things that are still coming that we DON'T know about though.

This, however, excludes characters since those are exciting updates, and Sakurai might mindgame us yet again (though I don't doubt Falcon or Luigi's inclusion).

Special Moves:
Kirby
Pikachu
Samus
Zelda
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Peach
IC

Actually - I don't think they'll give away Special Moves for every Veteran. So far only Mario's and Link's are there because there were changes from the Melee setup. I think only Zelda will get a special moves update (Sheik or no Sheik?) and maybe Kirby.

 

[dookieSMASH]

Characters
Final Smashes
Zero Suit Samus
Sonic
Zelda
Wario
Snake
Lucas
King Dedede

Special Moves
Kirby
Pikachu
Samus
Zelda
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Peach
IC

How To Play
Smash 101:
Item Grabbing and Throwing

Techniques:
Airdodge
Crawling
Quick Grab
Swimming
Meteor Smashes/Interrupting the opponent/edgeguarding

Game Modes
Kirby+Peach on the Halberd video
Donkey VS Bowser video
Pit VS Primid video
Pit meets Mario video

Stages
Mario Kart (vid confirmed)
Corresponding stages for characters:
Kirby stage (assuming Halberd is for, duh, Metaknight)
King Dedede stage
Pikachu/Pokemon Trainer stage (only Pokemon Stadium conf, one additional poke stage to be added))
Another Kong stage (1 for both Donkey and Diddy)
Another Hyrule stage(for zelda/link)
2 more mushroom kingdom stages (bowser and peach)

Items
Assist Trophy: Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Assist Trophy: Infantry and Tanks (Advance Wars)
Assist Trophy: Metroid (Metroid)
Assist Trophy: Jill (Drill Dozer)
Pokéball: Kyogre
Pokéball: Bonsley
Pokéball: Latios/Latias
Pokéball: Torchic
Pokéball: Gardevoir
Spike Ball
Deku Nut
Spring Board
Lightning

Music

checklist of accredited musicians and those whose music is yet to be revealed

Akihiro Honda
Arata Iiyoshi
Asuka Ohta
Hajime Wakai
Jun Fukuda
Kazumi Totaka
Keigo Ozaki
Kenichi Okuma
Kenji Ito
Kenji Yamamoto
Kentaro Ishizaka
Koji Hayama
Koji Kondo - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Masaaki Iwasaki
Masafumi Takada - Yoshi Story: Ending
Masato Kouda
Michiko Naruke - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Minako Hamano - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
Motoi Sakuraba
Noriyuki Iwadare
Ryoji Yo****omi
Seiji Momoi
Shogo Sakai - Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme
Shota Kageyama
Takahiro Nishi
Tomoko Sasaki
Toru Minegishi
Toshiyuki Sudo
Tsukasa Masuko
Yasufumi Fukuda
Yasunori Mitsuda
Yoko Shimomura
Yuka Tsujiyoko
Yusuke Takahama - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
Yutaka Iraha
Yuzo Koshiro

*to be completed later

 

[:034:]

Updated the list. Divided it into NEW and OLD.

@dookie: Is it okay if I steal that music list? I haven't thought about that, but it might be that the musicians given so long ago might have changed or not every musician had a specific song.

 

[lilparadise]

Needs more Captain Falcon.

I agree 9001%

 

[:034:]

I agree 9001%

Not putting in characters to avoid fanboys. I wanna make this a clear thread on how much more we have to go through.

 

[Aryman]

Good thread. As the updates come just cross them off in the list. I didn't realize there was so much he could use as filler material.

 

[Egret]

How To Play: Techniques
Airdodge
Crawling
Swimming
Meteor Smashes/Interrupting the opponent/edgeguarding

You must airdodge!
You must crawl!
You must swim!
You must edgeguard!



These and more as individual updates, coming soon.

 

[dookieSMASH]

Updated the list. Divided it into NEW and OLD.

@dookie: Is it okay if I steal that music list? I haven't thought about that, but it might be that the musicians given so long ago might have changed or not every musician had a specific song.

go for it, im gonna try to update that list (im at work, but ill try)

 

[dookieSMASH]

alright heres the updated music list:

Accredited Musicians:

Akihiro Honda - Metal Gear Solid: MGS4 Love Theme
Kenichi Okuma - Pokémon: Pokémon Stadium/Evolution
Kenji Ito - Star Fox: Space Armada
Koji Kondo - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Masafumi Takada - Yoshi Story: Ending
Michiko Naruke - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Minako Hamano - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
Noriyuki Iwadare - Kirby: Meta Knight’s Revenge
Shogo Sakai - Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme, Kid Icarus: The Underworld, Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme
Tomoko Sasaki - WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme
Toru Minegishi - Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider!
Yuka Tsujiyoko - Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme
Yusuke Takahama - Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)

UNaccredited Musicians:

Arata Iiyoshi
Asuka Ohta
Hajime Wakai
Jun Fukuda
Kazumi Totaka
Keigo Ozaki
Kenji Yamamoto
Kentaro Ishizaka
Koji Hayama
Masaaki Iwasaki
Masato Kouda
Motoi Sakuraba
Ryoji Yo****omi (ha, stupid filter)
Seiji Momoi
Shota Kageyama
Takahiro Nishi
Toshiyuki Sudo
Tsukasa Masuko
Yasufumi Fukuda
Yasunori Mitsuda
Yoko Shimomura
Yutaka Iraha
Yuzo Koshiro

OK, wow, weve got 23 musicians who still need to be atached to a song. Now, this musician list is pretty old (May 22nd), but im assuming its still accurate, but who knows, sht happens. With Shogo Sakai soaking up 3 credits so far, its safe to assume some musicians might be double dipping anyways, so this should definitely balance out any one who doesnt end up contributing.

This break down gives me a lot more confidence that the final roster will be bursting at the seems. with 13 songs confirmed for characters/stages, weve got quite a few more to go before were done.

PRAY FOR DOUBLE UPDATES. PRAY

 

[Storm Eagle]

Actually - I don't think they'll give away Special Moves for every Veteran. So far only Mario's and Link's are there because there were changes from the Melee setup. I think only Zelda will get a special moves update (Sheik or no Sheik?) and maybe Kirby.

One word: Fox.

 

[Froilen]

you should put the football and clock item, in the new and certain section, because, we know about them, but not exactly what they do... this thing work like that? or what?

 

[:034:]

One word: Fox.

I thought about him right after I posted that. Heh. Will add more stuff to the list later.

 

[Froilen]

ohhh and climbing stairs... I forgot taht... ist... old and certain no?

 

[Jmax]

i highly doubt sakurai will cover edge guarding (when you jump on the edge so someone can't get on, right?). It's not really an official technique.

 

[amost]

I sort of revised the list. There's NEW and OLD lists. OLD is for stuff we already know: stuff revealed at E For All or from previous games. NEW is stuff we know will come but we don't know anything about.

CERTAIN (OLD)
Final Smashes
Zero Suit Samus
Sonic

How To Play: Smash 101
Item Grabbing and Throwing

How To Play: Techniques
Airdodge
Crawling
Quick Grab
Swimming
Meteor Smashes/Interrupting the opponent/edgeguarding

Game Modes
Kirby+Peach on the Halberd video
Donkey VS Bowser video
Pit VS Primid video
Pit meets Mario video

Items
Assist Trophy: Saki (Sin & Punishment)
Assist Trophy: Infantry and Tanks (Advance Wars)
Assist Trophy: Metroid (Metroid)
Assist Trophy: Jill (Drill Dozer)
Pokéball: Kyogre
Pokéball: Bonsley
Pokéball: Latios/Latias
Pokéball: Torchic
Pokéball: Gardevoir
Spike Ball
Deku Nut
Spring Board
Lightning

UNCERTAIN (OLD) (Obviously stuff that I dunno if they'll get added to the DOJO!!)

How To Play: Smash 101
How to use the Classic Controller (Hey we got the Wiimote thing!)
How to use the Gamecube Controller (mhm)
How to use the Wiimote + Nunchuk (King of fillers!)

How To Play: Techniques
Teching? (It wasn't in the How To Play video on both 64 and Melee...)
Walljumping? (see above)
C-Stick? (not sure if this was in the How To Play videos.)

Game Modes
Adventure? (Probably replaced with SSE)
All-Star? (Might be scrapped to save place for SSE)
Boss: Rayquaza (is he really a boss...?)

Items
Pokéballs from previous installments? (I won't be suprised)
Items from previous installments 2? (and so on? I wouldn't be suprised.)

CERTAIN (NEW)
Special Moves
Kirby
Pikachu
Zelda
Samus
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Peach
Ice Climbers

Final Smashes
Wario
Zelda
Lucas
King Dedede
Snake

Stages
'Mario Circuit'
A Sonic stage (Green Hill Zone?)

Music
Mario music
Donkey Kong music
MOTHER music
Ice Climbers music
Sonic music

UNCERTAIN (NEW)
Stages for each respective character instead of each respective franchise.


That's it for now. If anybody sees something I forgot to add, do tell. Remember it's for old stuff that we already know about, not stuff that might be changed.

you're forgetting the stage that is in the background in one of the videos... you know.. the one where it shows everyone doing a bunch of moves, and squiretle's move is in front of a purple sky with a moon/dead tree... (haunted mansion?)

 

[amost]

spelling mistake... it's not letting me edit my last post for some reason >_<

*squirtle

 

[Jackal478]

wait...

Bowser VS DK subspace vid?

edit: oh. i saw it

 

[smashmaniac16]

what about captain falcon?

 

[KJC2004]

donkey kong and MOTHER music were sorta in the stage builder

too bad we couldnt listen to them

 

[trio1000]

why didnt u add my idea? metal boxes where confirmed with the custom match

also sakurai could put up item switch

edit: ohhhh i just tought about it and that would fall under items from previous installments 2.

but he could still put up item switch

 

[:034:]

donkey kong and MOTHER music were sorta in the stage builder

too bad we couldnt listen to them

Which is why there will probably seperate updates.

you're forgetting the stage that is in the background in one of the videos... you know.. the one where it shows everyone doing a bunch of moves, and squiretle's move is in front of a purple sky with a moon/dead tree... (haunted mansion?)

I put it on there as 'The Haunted Mansion'.

but he could still put up item switch

Added.

i highly doubt sakurai will cover edge guarding (when you jump on the edge so someone can't get on, right?). It's not really an official technique.

I think we will get it. After all, it was in the Melee How To Play video. So it is pretty important. And of course "Fierce Aerial battles often rule the match", right?


And look - we get to stripe Saki off the list!

 

[trio1000]

ohh just got another idea

wat about that triping thingy that no one knows much about exept that it makes you fall on your face

it might not be a big deal enough to put it in a dojo update but it did capture a lot of attention on these boards and it is a new mechanic

 

[:034:]

*stripes Lucas' Final Smash off the list*

 

[:034:]

Double post. But at least we can slash off ALL the control schemes!

 

[Kittah4]

Purple sky with moon? Isn't that just Battlefield at night? Though I wouldnt count out a Luigi's Mansion stage, I dont think squirtles scene confirmed it.

 

[:034:]

^I checked. It's definitely not night-time Battlefield. Battlefield at night has a yellow moon and no scary old trees.

*stripes off DK music*

 

[lilparadise]

What about an update for the food that randomly apeared in the last game. I bet it would get a graphical over haul.