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My Team Tell me whats wrong

Thecloudmon

Smash Cadet
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1" Single Battle Team. I do make a request as to when Suggesting Pokemon for team No Legendary Pokemon please.

TOGEKISS @ Kings Rock
Nature: Timid (Att-,Speed+)
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: @ 252 Sp.A ,252 Speed, 6 HP

Air Slash
Aura Sphere
AncientPower
Flamethrower

Early-Mid Sweeper So I Can Have my opponents pokemon flinch or Type Cast First or 3rd in party order

Blissy @ Leftover
Nature: Calm (SpD+, Att-)
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: @ 252 HP , 252 Sp D ,6 Sp A

Toxic
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam

My wall. I Plan on making it have Wish in place Softboiled. also my Sp Attack

Electivire @ Life Orb
Nature: Jolly (Speed+, Sp.A-)
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: @ 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Earhquake
Cross Chop

This what I send in based on what kills my 1st pokemon. Second or Fourth party order

Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (Att+,Sp.A-)
Ability: Pressure
EVs: @ 252 Att, @ 252 Speed , @ 6 HP

Rock Slide
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Crunch

This is also what 2nd or Fourth Dependig what kills my first pokemon.

Gengar @ Wise Glasses
Nature: Modest (Sp.A+,Att-)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: @ 252 Speed, 252 Sp.A, 6 HP

Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Slude Bomb
Shadow Ball

I never had to use it not it in the party cause it is my favorite pokemon. my last in the party always

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Adamant (Att+,SpA-)
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: @ 252 Att, 252 speed, 6 HP

Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Stone Edge

Generally my Third pokemon but I place it at the head of the of my party.


Edit: I have Diamond I know how bad it Hyponsis is on PV
This Team needs work i know but give me tips on how i can make this work oor fix it

Edit sorry this took so longcloud not get back in a hour but i got sixth place atthe tourney.... I should have listen to the guy who said run mix Mence with scarf Bronzong ate my dinner.
 

Circa

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I probably shouldn't help...but...whatevs.

Togekiss: Get rid of Flamethrower and either give it Thunder Wave or Body Slam. Then get rid of King's Rock and give it Leftovers. Congratulations, you now have yourself the ever-so-hated paraflinch hax Togekiss. If I had to assume, it will now live longer and be even more gay.

Blissey: Calm is +SpD. Just thought I'd tell you. Oh, and Blissey doesn't need that many EVs in SpD. Ever. Put some, most, or even all (I don't care how much tbh) in SpAtk instead so your Ice Beam can do more.

Electivire: I never really liked Electivire, but to each his own I guess. Anyway, try expert belt instead, and even try out Adamant over Jolly for more damage. If you can predict an electric-type attack and counter with him, then you probably aren't going to need the extra speed from Jolly anyway. As for using expert belt, you hit a **** load of things for super effective with that spread, and you're definitely going to want to utilize that. Electivire will enjoy not killing itself too, considering it'll still be doing crazy amounts of damage despite the possibility of an occasional lack of power.

Aerodactyl: Give it a Jolly nature for safety's sake, and consider Stone Edge over Rock Slide. In most cases that I've noticed, the increased chance of missing is a good trade-off for quite a lot more power and less reliance on flinch hax when it comes to using Aero.

Gengar: Get rid of the entire set and start from scratch, only keeping shadow ball, the EVs, and maybe the nature. I'll be quite honest, that set is horrid. Hypnosis has horrible accuracy and is very unreliable for Gengar due to his glass-like defenses, which makes dream eater even worse than it already is (opponents tend to switch out when put to sleep, so it'll rarely get used), and although it is Gengar's strongest STAB move, sludge bomb has too bad of coverage to be used. As for what to give him, idk. I've never used Gengar. I just know what not to use on him. :\

Salamence: Consider a mixMence variant for the Scarf. You'll probably do more overall damage with it.
 

WouW

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Lol the guy who made himself (in)famous with making himself seem extremely dumb with grammars worse than Maxfire's and idiot posting in general is making a RMT. This'll be fun.

EDIT:I just read your post of your nephey hijacking stuff, I apologise for some of the rude comments I left in here.

1" Single Battle Team. I do make a request as to when Suggesting Pokemon for team No Legendary Pokemon please.

TOGEKISS @ Kings Rock
Nature: Timid (Att-,Speed+)
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: @ 252 Sp.A ,252 Speed, 6 HP

Air Slash
Aura Sphere
AncientPower
Flamethrower

Early-Mid Sweeper So I Can Have my opponents pokemon flinch or Type Cast First or 3rd in party order
Right, so what does this do to leads like Azelf, Metagross, Aerodactyl, Swampert, Infernape just to name some of the most common ones? Or just about any lead out there? And why did you rant about 'setting up stuff' or something when your lead doesn't set up anything? Why don't you use Scarf or Thunder Wave so you can actually outspeed stuff to flinch them?

Blissy @ Leftover
Nature: Calm (Def+, Att-)
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: @ 252 HP , 252 Sp D ,6 Sp A

Toxic
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam

My wall. I Plan on making it have Wish in place Softboiled. also my Sp Attack
No def EVs? You want to be killed by every pursuitor out there? Also, if you want Wish you'll need Protect. Replace Seismic Toss with that.
Also your special attack what?

Electivire @ Life Orb
Nature: Jolly (Speed+, Sp.A-)
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: @ 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Earhquake
Cross Chop

This what I send in based on what kills my 1st pokemon. Second or Fourth party order
Wait, party order (aside from leads) matter now? Otherwise, a pretty standard physical Electivire.

Aerodactyl @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant (Att+,Sp.A-)
Ability: Pressure
EVs: @ 252 Att, @ 252 Speed , @ 6 HP

Rock Slide
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Crunch

This is also what 2nd or Fourth Dependig what kills my first pokemon.
What would be third, then? Aerodactyl isn't exactly an amazing sweeper (even) with Choice Band.

Gengar @ Wise Glasses
Nature: Modest (Sp.A+,Att-)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: @ 252 Speed, 252 Sp.A, 6 HP

Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Slude Bomb
Shadow Ball

I never had to use it not it in the party cause it is my favorite pokemon. my last in the party always
Lol, you're trying to play competitive while using a 'filler' pokémon?

Horrible set. Dream Eater will never ever work and Sludge Bomb has NO coverage at all. Hypnosises accuracy may be turning you down, too.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Adamant (Att+,SpA-)
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: @ 252 Att, 252 speed, 6 HP

Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Stone Edge

Generally my Third pokemon but I place it at the head of the of my party.
Scarf? Why not switch into something you can make switch out to get a DD off and sweep stuff with LO and DD both boosting your damage as well?

This Team needs work i know but give me tips on how i can make this work oor fix it
First, you're making an incredibly big *** of yourself by first knowing everything better and then posting this. **** your nephew
Second, where's Weavile? Or Kabutops? **** your nephew
 

Circa

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If what he says in his last post on Articanus' thread is true, then now we're the ones being an ***. Just thought I'd mention that. :\

Doesn't mean he deserves complete forgiveness though, obviously. He could be lying after all. Feel free to be harsh, but just don't overdo it.

And tbh, there are a few things I actually kinda liked about his team. I've used Aero before as something other than a lead, and although he isn't a great sweeper, he does make quite a good revenge killer. People tend to underestimate him and don't switch out when you put him in. :)

EDIT: Sorry if any of my original post was offensive too. I edited my Gengar advice to at least explain why the set is bad, but I figured I'd add this too in case it was still too harsh. :\
 

Thecloudmon

Smash Cadet
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Guy its kool

Say Lead With A Gliscor and Drop Gengar for Now
Gliscor @Leftovers
Nature: Jolly Ev's Spe 252, Def, 252 ,hp 6
Sand Veil

Brick Break
U-turn
Stone Edge
EarthQuake

I lead with This and Redo Vire for Adamant with With Expert Belt

Also, Lets Say i dropped My Wall For Gyrados

Gyrados @ Life Orb???/
Nature Adamant : 252 att, 252 spe, 6 def

Dragon Dance
Ice Fang/Stone Edge
Aqua Tail/Waterfall
Earthquake

Would this change before the better of worse
 

WouW

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Gyarados is good. Also, your Gliscor has the same problem that Togekiss has: it doesn't really do anything as far as setting up goes, and it can't beat a lot of leads either. Try Metagross with a set like:

Metagross @ Occa Berry (weakens SE fire)
Adamant/Clear Body
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

This lead can 2HKO Azelf with Meteor Mash + Bullet Punch (note that they're usually holding a Focus Sash so it would be a 2HKO still), 2HKO Aerodactyl with Bullet Punch and KO bulky leads like Hippowdon or Swampert with Explosion. You may want to fit Stealth Rock on there somewhere, or get a Infernape with Fake Out/Fire Blast/Stealth Rock/Close Combat, another fine lead.
 

NJzFinest

Smash Hero
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NYC
Hypnosis + Dream Eater never worked. Believe it or not, but people actually have the option of switching lol

Also, for the most part, it looks like someone just took a bunch of OU pokemon and gave them cool moves / items.

I really think the first thing you should do is read the Smog article on leads.
 

Wave⁂

Smash Legend
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Messages
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A team's lead is very important; it can set up a weather effect, either boosting attack or dealing passive damage; it can flip everything upside-down with Trick Room; it can poison all of your opponent's Pokemon with Toxic Spikes, or damage them with Spikes or Stealth Rock; or it can prevent the opponent from doing anything of the previous actions.

Putting your opponent to sleep with Sleep Power or Spore is a very effective way of not only essentially KOing a Pokemon, but also giving you a free turn to set up entry hazards or weather. Taunt protects your team from weather and entry hazards, but isn't going to protect you from Starmie's Hydro Pump. Using Trick while holding a Choice item is a good way of crippling a lead; although they may succeed in setting up, they ar eforced to switch out the next turn. Some Pokemon, like Metagross or Roserade, don't mind having a Choice Scarf. Lead Starmie and Empoleon are great anti-leads because of their ability to OHKO or 2HKO virtually all leads.
 

Thecloudmon

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Here is What i plan to do for the tourney i am entering locally
As lead
Metagross @ Focus Sash
Adamant/Clear Body
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Made the necessary Changes to vire i need a suggestion what to end with

The tourney i am entering has some standard rules. But a ubers banned and a special Designator where I can ban Three pokemon i do not wish to play against. I can not change may ban choice once made. I plan on banning azelf, Cressila, Heatran Would this benefit my team or not.

everyone must register their party before their match starts if you or your opponent has one of the banned pokemon we must replace them with some the else.

Say i Run the team as stated without blissey and Togekiss and Gengar. Replacing them with Gyrados, Metagross and SubPetra Empoleon Will this help my chances tell tourney tomorrow at Nine.

Grachomp is OU Down here not uber as yet
 

Wave⁂

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1. The only thing that's going to OHKO Metagross is a powerful Fire Blast. As such, an Occa Berry is much better than a Focus Sash.

2. Good attacks, though Stealth Rock > all of those moves.

3. Your EVs aren't optimal. Max speed isn't very useful, for one. 252 HP / 248 Atk / 8 Spe is better; Max HP for durability, Speed to outspeed Magnezone and Skarmory. 252 HP / 238 Atk / 12 Def / 8 Spe lets your survive a CB max attack Adamant Dugtrio's Earthquake, though Dugtrio are fairly rare ever since he was lowered UU.

4. Your bans should depend on your team, and your team isn't quite finished yet.
 
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