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My team I guess..

indifference

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This is my team for now, please rate and comment..

Ninjask @ Lax Incense
252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spd
Speed Boost: Jolly
X-Scissor
Swords Dance
Substitute
Baton Pass
He is just one of the baton passers out there, he helps speed up my Tyranitar.

Tyranitar @ ?
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Sand Stream: Adamant
Crunch
Ice punch
Stone Edge
Earthquake
He is just my trump card and maybe a dragon counter, though my Weavile can probably do a better job..

Weavile @ Razor Fang
252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Speed
Pressure: Jolly
Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
False Swipe (I don't know what to replace it with so I just left it.)
Dragon counter/first strike I just find him fun to use!

Salamence @ ?
252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Sp Atk
Intimidate: Hardy
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Earthquake
I just like to use Salamence as a multi-sweeper.

Forretress @ Leftovers
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Sturdy: Impish
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Spikes
Stealth Rock
Forrestress is just a spiker and my physical wall and is useful for removing spikes.

Right now I'm trying to raise a Milotic after looking so long for a Feebas, but for now that is my team.
 

Wave⁂

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Your natures are terrible. Hardy Mence?


Empoleon / Swampert / Suicune > Milotic


Weavile wants Ice Shard and Pursuit / Sucker Punch (does he learn that?)
Ninjask needs Protect and 252 HP, throw the rest in Def and SpDef.


Mence needs work. You can't max out Atk and SpAtk, he's slow as hell with any Spe EVs.

Try:

Salamence @ Life Orb
232 Atk / 24 Sp Atk / 252 Spe
Intimidate: Naughty
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Blast
Earthquake


If you're going for Tyraniboah:

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
252 HP / 52 Atk / 176 SpA / 28 Spe
Sand Stream: Quiet
Substitute
Focus Punch
Dark Pulse
Thunderbolt
 

WouW

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(does he learn that?)
As far as I know, Weavile doesn't learn Sucker Punch.

Ninjask needs Protect.
A problem would be what he wants to drop for it; if he drops X-Scissor, he gets completely ***** by taunt leads; if he drops SD, he can't pass attack; without Protect he gets ***** by trick leads. The OP should decide.

Also, with Protect, you don't need nearly as much Speed EVs; 24 is enough to outspeed every Trickscarfer, and you can use an Adamant nature and 232 HP EVs; possibly making the sub chunky enough when you BP into a resisted hit.

Also, you may want to have multiple BP recipients in case Tyranitar would be KOed already.
 

indifference

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What would be good BP recipients for ninjask? Also, is my Forretress okay to use in my team? I still need to learn a lot about playing at high levels.
 

Wave⁂

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Rhyperior and Agiligross would love +2 Speed. Forretress seems good.
 

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As far as I know, Weavile doesn't learn Sucker Punch.



A problem would be what he wants to drop for it; if he drops X-Scissor, he gets completely ***** by taunt leads; if he drops SD, he can't pass attack; without Protect he gets ***** by trick leads. The OP should decide.

Also, you may want to have multiple BP recipients in case Tyranitar would be KOed already.
Actually,...considering what generally carries taunt, I would recommend him making the switch for U-Turn over X-Scissor anyway, tbh. At least then he's not going to be ****ed by that Aero that he's guaranteed to not kill. Azelf is the only other common lead that semi-frequently runs taunt, and X-Scissor isn't even guaranteed to kill without being of an Adamant nature. In all honesty, the only way I could ever see X-Scissor being more useful than U-Turn on a Jask lead is if you went for some crazy mindgame-y **** and sash'd it with a moveset of protect, SD, X-Scissor, and BP. Which...is something that only I would do. XD

As for the Ttar, what I think you need to do is give it flamethrower over crunch and then throw on an expert belt. It's a guaranteed OHKO (it quite literally hits at a minimal 100% damage) and 2HKOs Skarm. I would recommend fire punch, but it doesn't get the 2HKO on Skarm. It's not too good on Metagross, but you have EQ for that. :p And if you're wondering why I said get rid of crunch, well...figure in the fact that no idiot would ever throw out a psychic or ghost type against Ttar. It's basically suicide.

Band the Weavile, like Annoying said. And then I'd probably give it Pursuit over the false swipe and ice shard over the ice punch. That one's up to you, though...you can replace night slash with pursuit and false swipe with ice shard, if you want.

As for a 6th Poke, I wouldn't use Milotic. Your team is already carrying three Pokes who suffer from Ttar's SS, and another would just be bad news. If you really want the bulky water, then take Swampert. He won't suffer residual damage and he's still bulky as ****. AND...if you come up with the right moveset for him, he could also be a BP recipient possibly; so that's two birds stoned at once.
 

WouW

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Rhyperior and Agiligross would love +2 Speed. Forretress seems good.
You just pulled that straight out of my team, didn't you.

But yeah, slow buggers with high attack stats are good BP recipients for Ninjask, or pokés that otherwise benefit greatly from speed. I use Rhyperior, Metagross and Breloom, and other options include Rampardos, Marowak, Ursaring, Mamoswine, Machamp and Porygon-Z. Probably a few UUs/NUs as well.

timmsu said:
Actually,...considering what generally carries taunt, I would recommend him making the switch for U-Turn over X-Scissor anyway, tbh. At least then he's not going to be ****ed by that Aero that he's guaranteed to not kill.
If you have your Sub up as he taunts you, having U-Turn would only make you waste your Sub. With X-Scissor, you can 4HKO Aero if it ever comes down to that (lol).
timmsu said:
Azelf is the only other common lead that semi-frequently runs taunt, and X-Scissor isn't even guaranteed to kill without being of an Adamant nature.
Which doesn't even matter as 99% of lead Azelf are Sashed. Also, we are talking with Adamant nature.

But really, I've played extensively with Ninjask and lead Azelf doesn't even seem to be a problem. Protect, Sub, X-Scissor twice, they're KOed and maybe Taunt wears off and you can still BP a chunk of Speed.

X-Scissor also has the advantage of dealing with non-leads setting up (Jask's attack power is really underestimated) without making you drop your boosts.
 

indifference

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What if I try throwing Heatran to my team to replace Salamence?

Which would lead to..

Ninjask
Forrestress
Milotic (unless I find someone to replace him.)
Tyranitar
Heatran
Weavile

For my tyranitar though when you mentioned giving a fire move in this case flamethrower I also thought about giving him fire punch instead to compensate with his high atk stat would that be okay? Also the crunch issue, like couldn't that be like a good finisher if I can whittle him down till he has just a ghost or psychic type?
 

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If you use Heatran with Choice Scarf (since that's pretty much what he's good at), you have a BP Ninjask, with a Tyranitar as the only poké who enjoys BPed Speed; Weavile and Scarftran are already fast enough and Milotic and Forretress are walls and don't benefit much (if at all) from speed.

You should try a different lead, give the Tyranitar Choice Band and then the team synergy is about right.
 
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