my team any further ideas?

[XIF]

Jolteon (leftovers) (volt absorb) (timid)
(252 speed 252 spec attack 4 HP)
twave
tbolt
hpice
sub

Starmie (leftovers) (natural cure) (modest)
(252 speed 252 spec attack 4 HP)
surf
icebeam
tbolt
grassknot

Skarmory (leftovers) (sturdy) (impish)
(240 HP 74 attack 196 def)
roost
spikes
roar
brave bird

Garchomp (choice scarf) (sand veil) (jolly)
(252 attack 252 speed 4 hp)
earthquake
outrage
---------- i dunno what to put here.
fire blast

Scizor (life orb) (technician) (adamant)
(252 attack 232 HP 24 def)
quick attack
swords dance
roost
brick break

Cresselia (left overs) (levitate) (bold)
(204 HP 52 spec attack 252 spec def)
chargebeam
twave
icebeam
moonlight

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basic strat:

Basically jolteon to start and depending on what starter i'm up against i'll either sub or switch in skarmory or cresselia. with skarm i'll try to set up spikes if I can and start roaring. With cresselia i'll start with twave and then start spamming charge beam and try to get my special attack up as much as I can basically just wall the crap out of the team and get as much damage done as possible with ice beam or charge beam. After that basically its weakening down their team and then trying to get a proper switch in for my chomp or scizor and start an outrage sweep or get at least one swords dance with scizor and then quick attack. Starmie is just a miscellaneous special attacker, multi purpose, my starmie rarely sees action if my strategy works.
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i've been using this online with shoddy battle and so far i've actually been kicking alot of *** =) (garchomp with outrage is ********)

but I have a couple questions

should I consider taking out jolteon or starmie for someone like leafeon for baton pass? (to chomp or scizor with a swords dance)

if you're wondering about all the leftovers... shoddy doesnt have item clause, but regardless should I consider other items instead of leftovers for jolteon or starmie?

 

[shadydentist]

*Here* is where you want to take a look. Make sure you specify what EVs and natures your using. Otherwise, its difficult to rate your team. Also, it helps if you add commentary to explain how you plan on using this team. When you've done those things, it can be properly rated.

Howevever, I can answer some of your questions. If you're planning on sweeping with starmie, an expert belt or life orb might help. Swords dance on a garchomp with choice scarf is just silly.

 

[XIF]

*Here* is where you want to take a look. Make sure you specify what EVs and natures your using. Otherwise, its difficult to rate your team. Also, it helps if you add commentary to explain how you plan on using this team. When you've done those things, it can be properly rated.

Howevever, I can answer some of your questions. If you're planning on sweeping with starmie, an expert belt or life orb might help. Swords dance on a garchomp with choice scarf is just silly.

yeah i had a different set with my garchomp before and just added in some moves to my original moveset and kinda left swords dance in there because i didnt know what to do. I had never tested out whether choice scarf limits all moves or just attacks so yeah <_<;

i dont have the EV's and natures right now (on a different computer) but I can give a general idea for my strategy:

Basically jolteon to start and depending on what starter i'm up against i'll either sub or switch in skarmory or cresselia. with skarm i'll try to set up spikes if I can and start roaring. With cresselia i'll start with twave and then start spamming charge beam and try to get my special attack up as much as I can basically just wall the crap out of the team and get as much damage done as possible with ice beam or charge beam. After that basically its weakening down their team and then trying to get a proper switch in for my chomp or scizor and start an outrage sweep or get at least one swords dance with scizor and then quick attack. Starmie is just a miscellaneous special attacker, multi purpose, my starmie rarely sees action if my strategy works. I'll look into expert belt/life orb though.

 

[Gnes]

The only problem...garchomp cant learn outrage!!! Better switch to dragonite if thats your goal it can accomplish the same purpose but dragonite might survive once ice att.....since starmies not useful(why does it have grass....for swampert????)why dont u put in a support poke with a move like wish or somethin

 

[XIF]

garchomp can definitely learn outrage... <_< is a dragon type honestly >_>;;;

yeah i put grass knot on starmie for random water types like swampert that were giving me trouble.

 

[shadydentist]

I dont have all the information i have my actual team not on me now so bear with me.

Jolteon (leftovers) (volt absorb) (timid)
(252 speed 252 spec attack 4 HP)
twave
tbolt
hpice
sub

Seems good. Normally I would throw baton pass in there over t-wave, but both do a good job of supporting the team

Starmie (leftovers) (natural cure) (modest)
(252 speed 252 spec attack 4 HP)
surf
icebeam
tbolt
grassknot

If you're going to go pure sweeper with starmie, I would recommend either life orb or expert belt if you don't like the recoil damage.

Skarmory (leftovers) (sturdy) (impish)
(240 HP 74 attack 196 def)
roost
spikes
roar
brave bird
Its fine, although personally i don't want my walls taking recoil damage from brave bird. Also, keep in mind that without shed shell you're doomed as soon as magnezone shows up.

Garchomp (choice scarf) (sand veil) (jolly)
(252 attack 252 speed 4 hp)
earthquake
outrage
---------- i dunno what to put here.
fire blast

For a scarfchomp you've basically either got stone edge or crunch.

Scizor (life orb) (technician) (adamant)
(252 attack 232 HP 24 def)
quick attack
swords dance
roost
brick break

Fighting/normal has really bad type coverage. If you want it to sweep, I would probably replace roost with x-scissor, but really Scisor makes a better support pokemon than a sweeper. A good baton passing set would be something like agility/swords dance or roost/x-scissor/baton pass

Cresselia (left overs) (levitate) (bold)
(204 HP 52 spec attack 252 spec def)
chargebeam
twave
icebeam
moonlight

Okay.

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basic strat:

Basically jolteon to start and depending on what starter i'm up against i'll either sub or switch in skarmory or cresselia. with skarm i'll try to set up spikes if I can and start roaring. With cresselia i'll start with twave and then start spamming charge beam and try to get my special attack up as much as I can basically just wall the crap out of the team and get as much damage done as possible with ice beam or charge beam. After that basically its weakening down their team and then trying to get a proper switch in for my chomp or scizor and start an outrage sweep or get at least one swords dance with scizor and then quick attack. Starmie is just a miscellaneous special attacker, multi purpose, my starmie rarely sees action if my strategy works.
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i've been using this online with shoddy battle and so far i've actually been kicking alot of *** =) (garchomp with outrage is ********)

but I have a couple questions

should I consider taking out jolteon or starmie for someone like leafeon for baton pass? (to chomp or scizor with a swords dance)

if you're wondering about all the leftovers... shoddy doesnt have item clause, but regardless should I consider other items instead of leftovers for jolteon or starmie?

Overall, seems like a balanced team.

 

[XIF]

wow... thanks for all the feedback, i think crunch is the way to go for my garchomp... dark just seems like it'd be good for all around type coverage. unless i'm missing something with rock <_<

starmie: I dont like the idea of recoil... she's fragile enough as it is, so expert belt i guess =)

I havent seen a single magnezone o_O;;; any suggestions on how to take on magnezone with my team? I really dont have a clue besides the fact its like 4x weak to ground... garchomp?

hmmmmm.... i dunno my scizor seems to do fine as it is... I dont really want another support pokemon what I really wanted was another sweeper and one that wouldnt get **** on by anyone with iceshard (i went up against a team that had an abomasnow, froslass, and weavile, and it was a nightmare) its not like I ever get to use quick attack or brickbreak on anything thats super effective, but scizor is more of my endgame pokemon its there to finish business. considering all of that do you still think it'd be better off as a support?

 

[ss118]

If you think you'll have trouble with Magnezone, give Skarmory Shed Shell. Then you can switch to Garchomp when the Magnezone Thunderbolts, give you the chance to set up.
also works if you had a Dugtrio.

 

[XIF]

well i havent seen a single magnezone so i wouldnt know... you cant roar or anything or would tbolt OHKO?

 

[IC3R]

well i havent seen a single magnezone so i wouldnt know... you cant roar or anything or would tbolt OHKO?

Yeah, except it doesn't help if the dangerous Poke (Magnezone) is already there; Roar always goes last...

 

[shadydentist]

Don't expect to survive a stabbed thunderbolt.