My suggestions for Project M...

[Mudkip97]

While playing Project M I decide I would suggest my idea's for future versions:

1-Pichu as a Character

-I think Pichu should return from SSBM. He would be fun to use. And a few tweaks with his melee moves could make him distinguish from Pikachu.
-As a Final Smash he could use a ukulele from the Pokemon Ranger and would be used similarly to how Barabra (the Assist Trophy) uses her guitar and the same effects could be used.
-As an alternate costume he could have his Spiky-eared form from Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

2-Giving Squirtle, Ivisaur and Charizard Final Smashes

3-Have more returning stages such as:

-Great Bay (SSBM)
-Poké Float (SSBM)
-Peache's castle (SSB64)

4-Custom stages:

-What if you had stage where you are ridding on the Great Fox but the background changes from Sector Z (SSB64) to Corneria (SSBM)
-A Megaman X stage. A stage that is based of 'Central Highway' and that uses colors and models from 'Mega Man Maverick Hunter X'.
-A Sonic Generations stage. A stage based on the 'Perfect Chaos' boss fight with Chaos moving in the background. It should have water and more than one platforms. And the models and textures for the stage should be taken from 'Sonic Generations'.

Idea I more or less want:

5-Lloyd Irving (from the Tales series) as a character

-His model has already been done more than once on brawl Vault.
-He should wield the Material Blades.
-His voice clips can be easily found.

 

[Paradoxium]

Lock this thread

 

[Phaiyte]

Can we just delete it instead?

 

[Xermo]

lol

 

[Mudkip97]

Lock this thread

Why what did i do wrong

 

[Regralt]

Why what did i do wrong

Well... some of what you suggested has already been said to death, and has already had reasons shown as to why it won't/can't happen.
I could find quotes if need be.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Why what did i do wrong

Poor guy. Don't mind them.

Just to help you out a bit more without being such a condescending jerkoff like the others above, Pichu has already been discussed many times, but the place to do would be the Clone Engine Character Speculation and Discussion Thread. The same would apply for any other characters you'd want to bring up and discuss.

As for everything else, though, they've already been talked about and addressed to death. There are already too many threads of people trying to give out their "suggestions" and ideas to the PMBR that most of us are just sick of seeing them. You technically didn't do anything wrong, per se, more of it being something that's greatly frowned upon.

Just stick to reading around a bit to learn about everything that's already been discussed and addressed and refrain from making more threads like this and you'll be okay.

Understand?

 

[Mudkip97]

Well... some of what you suggested has already been said to death, and has already had reasons shown as to why it won't/can't happen.
I could find quotes if need be.

Please do find some I'dd be interested in reading them

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Please do find some I'dd be interested in reading them

The threads are all right there. Just look through them on your own and you'll find the discussions we've specified.

 

[tan(90]

I've heard something about the PMBR won't add characters from Smash 4 as respect for the new game. Also, I heard they won't add random characters from different franchises and are only gonna add characters from previous games and assist trophies.

 

[Mudkip97]

I've heard something about the PMBR won't add characters from Smash 4 as respect for the new game. Also, I heard they won't add random characters from different franchises and are only gonna add characters from previous games and assist trophies.

I know that's why I said that I more or less want Lloyd to be in because of that reason but I know he has no chance but just in case. As for my Pichu idea that is out of all my idea's want the most.

 

[tan(90]

At the end of one of Project M's youtube videos, it shows "Challenger Approaching" and it shows the shadow of Pichu. So cross your fingers.

 

[Terotrous]

The main issue is that there's already threads about these things. Check out the "Your ideal 4.0" and the "Clone engine speculation" threads for suggestions about what to add to the game.

 

[Regralt]

Please do find some I'dd be interested in reading them

1. Having Pichu return is something that's been discussed to death. While it is something that could be done, it's best to focus resources on other efforts.
An example might be this: http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/1rlrv7/about_pichu/

2. In regard to this one, Strong Bad said, "The reason the Kanto Trio don't have Final Smashes isn't out of lack of want or creativity in coming up with a Final Smash for each, but a technical limitation preventing us from making a Final Smash for them at all. Should we eventually find a way, you'll certainly see some awesome FSes on them."
http://smashboards.com/threads/final-smash-ideas.344587/

3. This is also something that's been suggested quite a bit. More or less, it comes down perfectly as to what Wave Kusanagi said, "There are already too many threads of people trying to give out their "suggestions" and ideas to the PMBR that most of us are just sick of seeing them. You technically didn't do anything wrong, per se, more of it being something that's greatly frowned upon."
It has a possibility of happening, so I wouldn't worry about it.

4. Eh, the same thing could said as what was said above. More or less, there were probably better places to put these suggestions.

5. Well, in post #11 of this thread you already acknowledged that he won't be in. So, it would be a little redundant to point out why to you.

 

[Mudkip97]

1. Having Pichu return is something that's been discussed to death. While it is something that could be done, it's best to focus resources on other efforts.
An example might be this: http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/1rlrv7/about_pichu/

2. In regards to this one, Strong Bad said, "The reason the Kanto Trio don't have Final Smashes isn't out of lack of want or creativity in coming up with a Final Smash for each, but a technical limitation preventing us from making a Final Smash for them at all. Should we eventually find a way, you'll certainly see some awesome FSes on them."
http://smashboards.com/threads/final-smash-ideas.344587/

3. This is also something that's been suggested quite a bit. More or less, it comes down perfectly as to what Wave Kusanagi said, "There are already too many threads of people trying to give out their "suggestions" and ideas to the PMBR that most of us are just sick of seeing them. You technically didn't do anything wrong, per se, more of it being something that's greatly frowned upon."
It has a possibility of happening, so I wouldn't worry about it.

4. Eh, the same thing could said as what was said above. More or less, there were probably better places to put these suggestions.

5. Well, in post #11 of this thread you already acknowledged that he won't be in. So, it would be a little redundant to point out why to you.

#5 one can still hope

 

[Mudkip97]

At the end of one of Project M's youtube videos, it shows "Challenger Approaching" and it shows the shadow of Pichu. So cross your fingers.

Plus when I did some modification to add my own stuff to project I even found a Pichu stock icon.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

At the end of one of Project M's youtube videos, it shows "Challenger Approaching" and it shows the shadow of Pichu. So cross your fingers.

That was the April Fools joke.

 

[Mudkip97]

That was the April Fools joke.

How do you explain me finding Pichu's stock icon when I looked through Common5.pac file when replacing some stuff?

 

[Xermo]

How do you explain me finding Pichu's stock icon when I looked through Common5.pac file when replacing some stuff?

That was also a joke. Pichu is now 'technically' in the game.

 

[Mudkip97]

That was also a joke. Pichu is now 'technically' in the game.

Really?

 

[arcticfox8]

#5 one can still hope

They said they will not add characters that didn't appear in Brawl in some form. So no Lloyd.

 

[Justkallmekai]

I've heard something about the PMBR won't add characters from Smash 4 as respect for the new game. Also, I heard they won't add random characters from different franchises and are only gonna add characters from previous games and assist trophies.

Yea adding random characters from different franchises would be pretty weird and out of place.

 

[Saito]

Rule #1 of project M. You do not talk about
Rule #2 of project M. YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT

It all belongs in the clone engine discussion thread.

Lloyd isn't eligible for Project M because of reasons stated when they introduced the clone engine.

We do need great bay though.

That was the April Fools joke.

Turbo mode.

 

[Justkallmekai]

Rule #1 of project M. You do not talk about
Rule #2 of project M. YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT

It all belongs in the clone engine discussion thread.

Lloyd isn't eligible for Project M because of reasons stated when they introduced the clone engine.

We do need great bay though.


Turbo mode.

Great Bay would just be thrown into the causals, because if they don't use it for melee tournaments they won't for pm tournaments so I agree with everything you said basically

 

[Saito]

Great Bay would just be thrown into the causals,

Good.

I didn't download Project M to play Smash 64's "board the platforms."

 

[Justkallmekai]

Good.

I didn't download Project M to play Smash 64's "board the platforms."

lol board the platforms.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Turbo mode.

That started as an April Fools joke and was made otherwise by popular demand.

Pichu was stated very clearly to be solely a joke and nothing more.

 

[Justkallmekai]

That started as an April Fools joke and was made otherwise by popular demand.

Pichu was very clearly to be solely a joke and nothing more.

Pichu was a joke to me even being in smash.

 

[Saito]

Pichu was very clearly to be solely a joke and nothing more.

On what grounds can you say that with 100% certainty?

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

On what grounds can you say that with 100% certainty?

Reread the post. Somehow, I completely let out one single vital word. >>'

Why're you even going on about this? Who cares?

This topic needs to be locked now.

 

[Saito]

Reread the post. Somehow, I completely let out one single vital word. >>'

A joke in that context, but that still doesn't mean he's exempt.

Why're you even going on about this? Who cares?

Me.

it's not like I go on the internet to argue about things I don't care about at 1:40 in the morning.

 

[Justkallmekai]

A joke in that context, but that still doesn't mean he's exempt.


Me.

it's not like I go on the internet to argue about things I don't care about at 1:40 in the morning.

Even your profile picture is like I give a sh{t....

 

[Mudkip97]

Would you people stop fighting here...

I completely understand on your opinion and these are only opinions

A few months before Roy was announced I made a thread speculating that the [?] sign in the 'Character' column on the Project M website meant they will add characters from Melee such as Roy and Mewtwo. People kept spamming me and bul****ting me and in the end I was completely right about Roy and Mewtwo. Plus people told it will never happen that Project M already said they won't 'add' characters.

So who knows Pichu has a very big chance to be honest.

 

[Saito]

Would you people stop fighting here...

I completely understand on your opinion and these are only opinions

A few months before Roy was announced I made a thread speculating that the [?] sign in the 'Character' column on the Project M website meant they will add characters from Melee such as Roy and Mewtwo. People kept spamming me and bul****ting me and in the end I was completely right about Roy and Mewtwo. Plus people told it will never happen that Project M already said they won't 'add' characters.

So who knows Pichu has a very big chance to be honest.

What.

Okay the [?] mark sign in the Character column signifies the random select. So....

The choice to add Roy and Mewtwo was completely of their own accord. Your theory just happened to be a lucky coincidence.

However, Pichu is a bit of a different story. He has a lot of things that people didn't like about him, which is kind of the main reason he might not get added.

• Lowest tier character
• Dies easily
• More "clone" than any of the other characters by general consensus
• Hurts himself
• Bad grab range
• Bad attack range
• Less damage than Pikachu

This is not to say that Roy didn't suffer a lot either, but Roy had a fire sword. Doesn't sound like much of a difference but a fire sword is cool to people. That makes them want it back.

Pichu has few fans for it since it's just a pre evolution of Pikachu that was so significantly worse it's ridiculous. Project M also has it's own hatebase for him because they think that it's a waste of one of the five clone engine spots, and that there are too many Pokemon in Project M.

Project M already stated that they might be adding characters. They didn't state they wouldn't. For all we know they could be working on Pichu right now, or someone else.

 

[arcticfox8]

This thread, as beautiful as it's been, has gone on too long. Plz lock

 

[Mudkip97]

What.

Okay the [?] mark sign in the Character column signifies the random select. So....

The choice to add Roy and Mewtwo was completely of their own accord. Your theory just happened to be a lucky coincidence.

However, Pichu is a bit of a different story. He has a lot of things that people didn't like about him, which is kind of the main reason he might not get added.

• Lowest tier character
• Dies easily
• More "clone" than any of the other characters by general consensus
• Hurts himself
• Bad grab range
• Bad attack range
• Less damage than Pikachu

This is not to say that Roy didn't suffer a lot either, but Roy had a fire sword. Doesn't sound like much of a difference but a fire sword is cool to people. That makes them want it back.

Pichu has few fans for it since it's just a pre evolution of Pikachu that was so significantly worse it's ridiculous. Project M also has it's own hatebase for him because they think that it's a waste of one of the five clone engine spots, and that there are too many Pokemon in Project M.

Project M already stated that they might be adding characters. They didn't state they wouldn't. For all we know they could be working on Pichu right now, or someone else.

Yeah yeah I know what the [?] meant but back then it seemed odd that in a character listing they would include the question mark

Sure I can agree Pichu is a bit of a clone. But unlike Young Link or Dr Mario he's not a 100% clone since he needs to evolve to become Pikachu. Roy and Mewtwo are their own character however Dr Mario and Young Link are the same character as their original counterpart.

Yes I know Pichu isn't the best character but hear me out. Both Roy and Mewtwo all got changes in their moves and who's here to stop them for Pichu? They could crank up his moves and to make him less clone-ish they could my idea of Final Smash where he uses a ukulele instead of recopying Pikachu's Volt Tackle. And he could have an alternate costume of Spiky-Eared Pichu.

Ever since Melee Pichu has gotten more appearances and it would of been a shame not to include him in this way, such as in Heart Gold and Soul Silver and Pokemon Ranger Guardian Signs.

 

[Saito]

Sure I can agree Pichu is a bit of a clone. But unlike Young Link or Dr Mario he's not a 100% clone since he needs to evolve to become Pikachu. Roy and Mewtwo are their own character however Dr Mario and Young Link are the same character as their original counterpart.

Errr, that's not what I mean by clone.

Pichu is more clone than the other characters because of his attack properties. All of his attacks pretty much fill the same role that Pikachu's does. The only other clone characters that do it like this is Young link and Dr Mario. Young link got put into Toon Link and Mario respectively.

Yes I know Pichu isn't the best character but hear me out. Both Roy and Mewtwo all got changes in their moves and who's here to stop them for Pichu? They could crank up his moves and to make him less clone-ish they could my idea of Final Smash where he uses a ukulele instead of recopying Pikachu's Volt Tackle. And he could have an alternate costume of Spiky-Eared Pichu.

Ever since Melee Pichu has gotten more appearances and it would of been a shame not to include him in this way, such as in Heart Gold and Soul Silver and Pokemon Ranger Guardian Signs.

I think you need to hit up the clone engine speculation and discussion thread.

"bcuz melee" isn't a good representation for my opinion on the matter.

I want the character back because I feel it has potential.
If I honestly thought the PMBR could do nothing to make a character I liked even more likable I would drop the subject entirely. However, they have shown that they are capable of changing characters significantly enough to where they are much better, more diverse, and even more fun to play.

I can look at Roy who is probably in my top three favorite characters for project M and see how hard they worked on him. I look at all the work they did on this character and see how much I really love playing as him. Then I think "What would they do with Pichu?"

I don't know about you but that makes me extremely excited to see what they would do with this character if they do choose him.

I'm not saying that every other choice is wrong either. I'm stoked to see whatever the PMBR will surprise me with, but I don't think it's wrong for me to be a fan of a specific character to make a return because of the experiences I had with them in a different iteration of smash brothers.

 

[arcticfox8]

Are you seriously sending Pichu in there again?

 

[Phaiyte]

Ain't gonna lie, if it wasn't for copyright infringement problems I think Soma Cruz would be an amazing addition to this game, but that's just me.

 

[Mudkip97]

Ain't gonna lie, if it wasn't for copyright infringement problems I think Soma Cruz would be an amazing addition to this game, but that's just me.

To be honest their are probably thousands of Video Game characters that would fit in the problem is if it would feel Brawl enough...