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My Friend Won't Play Smash Anymore?

Moon of the Strawberries

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Hey guys, I need your opinion.

To understand this problem, you need to know my friend. This kid is known to beat games in less than a week, and be able to be great at nearly any game on the first try.

This is the same with melee. As far as i'm concerned, ever since he got it two years ago he has been playing it constantly, and took pride in what he did. He loved playing melee, and we'd vs each other on countless occassions, and he always beat me (at least 95% of the matches).

He was a serious player, and would always be up for a game. He played an amazing Marth, Fox, Falco, Falcon, and Sheik and was known to be good at most of the other characters. Despite the fact he always told me he was "no pro", he was amazing at combos and I kept finding myself loosing at him nearly every time.

Recently, i've been getting a bit more serious into playing melee, and have been practicing alot more. The other day when he came over, I managed to beat him in a few matches. After awile he seemed oddly bored, and I causually told him he was just probably "having a bad day". He agreed, but it was obvious he didn't want to play anymore. A few days afterwards, he bluntly told me that he was "sick and tired of playing against CPUs because they give you bad habits." I tried to talk him out of it and explain to him it's only because he's having a bad day/pushing himself too hard while playing, but he disagreed. He now tells me he's not going to play melee again, and that when he goes to play against his friend (who apperantly is better than him), it will be "torturous". I stated then we won't play together, but he told me that he still would.

I guess i'm just a little concerned. He's never been this upset over a game before, and i'm just wondering if any of you guys out there can help me.
 

thanortinzak

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Forget him. His skill level may be high, but nevertheless, his bad attitude makes him a scrub.
By the way, congratz for beating him.

You may be concerned that you won't improve because you can't play with him anymore. You can still improve. Find someone of a similiar skill level to fight, who is also a better sport.

I'm sorry for being so harsh on him, but really. It's just plain noobish to not be able to stand losing.
 

¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯

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Guys please stop saying "loosing" it's losing....


And tell your friend to not be a little punk and complain cuz he lost. Tell him to suck it up and prove to himself that he's better than that.
 

Slasherx

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Simple solution, insult him or intimidate him.
A few sentences such as "haha you suck, you'll never beat me"
should increased his anger, and in time he'll start playing brawl again.
Of course there is the negative side, you make fun of him and he'll called you a "No life" person.
 

Livvers

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Ha haaaaa. He can't take losing. He must have had so much pleasure being better than you and you took it away from him. I see this as a win for you.

Just try finding other people to play against. Meet some new people who enjoy smash as much as you =) It's cool to see you aren't a big baby about losing.
 

SkylerOcon

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If he's getting upset over losing like that, then you shouldn't be playing him. Unless it's WiFi, but Melee doesn't have that...

Really, this is a victory for you. You're better than him now. If he can't deal with it, fine. Go find somebody else to play with. That will only make you better and leave your other friend to sit and consider if it is worth getting all mad over losing.
 

The Drifter

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He sounds like a sore loser. He's not really worth playing Brawl with if he's like that.
 

Mith_

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Wifi you say?

My friend quit brawl after losing to Bowser in a tournament. So he won't let me play anymore so I had to quit as well. What a sore loser, I know how you feel bro.
 
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There's a chance that he's down, not because of the game, but because something is wrong IRL, is he only like this when you win against him? or is he feeling like that always?
 

Ryan Ludovic

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Let him Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, and play someone that might be enjoyable to be around.

I hate people like that. They're just obnoxious. Don't bother giving him the attention he's starving for, and dont feel guilty for winning against him. He doesn't deserve either.
 

Moon of the Strawberries

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There's a chance that he's down, not because of the game, but because something is wrong IRL, is he only like this when you win against him? or is he feeling like that always?
Actually, I just figured out that he was, indeed bothered by something a few days prior to the match. Lately, he's been his same old, 'win-at-everything' self.

And I mean, sure he's a bit of a sore loser, but he's not that bad, hence why I asked in the first place. He may get a bit upset about it but it doesn't go on for days.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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ya all you guys said is find some one els like hes some type of vampire and leaves his friends after he took their skill and used it for himself no they've been friends for a long time and he needs real advice like try and find out whats really wrong and although hes a poor sport try not to be a total **** about it.
 

Ryan Ludovic

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Well since there is something wrong past the idea that hes a horrible sore loser, I suggest one day when no video games are involved, you approach him and ask if something has been bother him, and let him vent his problems to you.
 

Kawaii Poyo

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My bro claims he quit too, I doubt it but still...

About 2 weeks ago my bro was getting pissed off over wi-fi and broke his controller meaning our household only has 1 GCN controller now.

A week after that my brother from college came down to my place, he plays smash but is a casual. As my brother and I are competitive smashers and clearly better than him we used the wiimote while my bro from college used the GCN controller. Yeah, I did lose a few times but the majority of the matches I won. I didn't care though as they were just friendlies and I was just having a good time.

However my bro couldn't beat my bro from college with the wiimote. I was talking about smash with him a few days later and he told me he quit. I was astonished, however I instantly knew the reason was cause he lost to my other brother who smash-wise is a scrub.

I hate to say it, but your friend is a bad sport, however it may ALSO be a cause of losing confidence. My brother also threw controllers and broke them when playing me over friendlies. I mean really, he would actually punch the **** out of me over friendlies, but he never considered quitting smash. This is because he knew I was better than him. However when he lost to my bro (even though he was using a wiimote) he quit (he never said that was the reason, but its obvious). He no contested against my bro and just walked out of the room pissed once he lost twice in a row.

I don't know the specifics but I think he's really lost confidence.

I myself have considered quitting teamz after losing to a scrub team, but that was tourney, I mean I didn't show it but wow, I was PISSED after I lost to those scrubs that and I felt bad for Bolt cause he teamed with me and I did terribly.
 

Moon of the Strawberries

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Makes sence, I can agree with that one. Honestly, I do think it's slightly my fault, I haven't been the best sport either.

Usully when we play, I loose alot, and after awile I tend to be in his position. I'm not a sore looser, but sometimes I feel stupid for attempting to play against him, despite the fact I've played the game two years before he had. He's used to me loosing (although by now we're evenly matched). So I think I know where he's at right now.

I can recall the times I told him to try tournies and he always replied with 'I'm not that good' and goes on a tangent about how all his other friends beat him. I think he had always been self consious about his playing skills and when I suddenly got the upper hand he felt bad.

But as far as i'm concerned, he's still not playing melee. Usually when I go over/he comes over we play Mario Party. Hopefully it's just a phase and he'll get out of it soon.
 

teeman92

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Makes sence, I can agree with that one. Honestly, I do think it's slightly my fault, I haven't been the best sport either.

Usully when we play, I loose alot, and after awile I tend to be in his position. I'm not a sore looser, but sometimes I feel stupid for attempting to play against him, despite the fact I've played the game two years before he had. He's used to me loosing (although by now we're evenly matched). So I think I know where he's at right now.

I can recall the times I told him to try tournies and he always replied with 'I'm not that good' and goes on a tangent about how all his other friends beat him. I think he had always been self consious about his playing skills and when I suddenly got the upper hand he felt bad.

But as far as i'm concerned, he's still not playing melee. Usually when I go over/he comes over we play Mario Party. Hopefully it's just a phase and he'll get out of it soon.
i absolutely HATE how you guys just....spit and kick dirt on the ones who cant seem to win.im in the same state as your friend, i quited playing smash against my brother since i never won a single game once, NOT ONCE. so tried asking for help here, ive improved but still i get whooped, then i had to ask my brother "WTF am i doing wrong? how are you constantly beating me?", he quote " i dont really know, try not doing those crazy moves you found" if i asked what i did wrong or hows he beat me he'll tell me the same thing, so much for help, so i quited playing and letting him suffer from CPUs on purpose since i had no help and no one at my level to play. i dont have a frustrated attitude or anything, if i cant beat him, i cant beat him, plain and simple.. i suggest examing on how he plays, and what are his weaknesses and such and ill solve his prob, otherwise he'll walk off.
 

Moon of the Strawberries

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i absolutely HATE how you guys just....spit and kick dirt on the ones who cant seem to win.
I don't consider myself 'kicking dirt' on him at all. I'm actually the one trying to boost his self confidence in games.

Normally, i'm the underdog when gaming. I'm the one who isn't all that good with games, so it was a pretty big surprise when I started beating him.

I'm the one who asks him how to be good at smash and he gives me hints. Also, during play, we tend to point out each other's strong points and learn off each other. I guess I caught onto my good points faster than he did.
 

teeman92

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I don't consider myself 'kicking dirt' on him at all. I'm actually the one trying to boost his self confidence in games.

Normally, i'm the underdog when gaming. I'm the one who isn't all that good with games, so it was a pretty big surprise when I started beating him.

I'm the one who asks him how to be good at smash and he gives me hints. Also, during play, we tend to point out each other's strong points and learn off each other. I guess I caught onto my good points faster than he did.
dunno... i woulda still played if i was your friend. if he really is frustrated, you should leave him alone. theres others games you know *wink* Madden *wink*
 

Sobchak

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it sounds like if he's just been playing computers the whole time aside from when you guys meet up, that he doesn't really have a lot of exposure fighting other people. Tell him to go to a tournament or something, just so he can play some other people besides you, that way, he'll get more experience with other characters and stuff and maybe he'll want to get better. Or, he'll just give up since it sounds like he doesn't like losing. But yea, get him some exposure because he could use it
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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i whip my brother raw and i am always trying to help him get better. how about you keep getting better and do teams with him that helped my brother keep playing but , really i aqm the guy who could play ip mode for a hour or so and love it

brawl still sucks XD
 
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