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My Falco, could you rate him and give me some tips?

lexxil

Smash Apprentice
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Feb 14, 2007
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Yes, my first Post, and i hope there will be more in future.

Im a nooby Smash player, and my english is bad, im from Germany ^.^
Now, here some vids, the quality is a 70s Porn, i hope you can watch it though...
Ingame, I play most times a blue Falco and my Tag is "AVP".


- http://youtube.com/watch?v=KTzemrlvaLo
- http://youtube.com/watch?v=bleUNX2gJcs

There will be more, and ive posted one of my best on Youtube xDD
Normally, Siruma pwnz me ;D

I look forward to some replies, lexxil
 

invertigo

Smash Journeyman
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wow im impressed. you guys have really nice falcos. very fast, pretty smart as well. you guys would probably beat my falco or it would be close so i dont think i should give advice. maybe roll less and work on your spacing at times. i think you guys should use utilt more too.
 

A-Laon

Smash Master
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Where it all went wrong
**** nice, I'd love to ditto that.

I really don't know what to tell ya'. The best I could recommend would be to settle down and just get some more straightforward shine combos in there; it seemed that a lot of your awesome hits went unrewarded due to a lack of comboing. Outside of that, I can't think of much. Good job.
 

lexxil

Smash Apprentice
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Feb 14, 2007
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Oh yeah, thanks for the comments, I hope there will be some FD vids soon.

I hope i can use our tips, and im happy that my Falco semms to be not that bad ;D
Normally i can perform Shine COmbos but in this Vids theyre almost like gone.
There will be also some Shiek Vids soon.

lexxil, more tips are welcome though ;D
 

FalseFalco

Smash Master
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Jan 1, 2005
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Edmonton
When you're good you're great, when you get shut down you need to get back into the groove.

Keep it up!
 

falco_4_life

Smash Lord
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Aug 31, 2006
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Abilene, TX
u guys have some nice falcos. either of yall and me would b a pretty good match. your way to good to call yourself a nooby
 

DemonicShadows

Smash Apprentice
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Nov 14, 2006
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90
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Boston, MA
Great. Better than mine when I started out...

You have a good start going, but I didn't see much wavedashing...you probably should work on back-wavedash "sweetspotting" when the side b is performed.

Other than that, nice job. Just work on those combos a bit.
 

Razed

Smash Ace
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Nov 14, 2006
Messages
548
Location
Quebec
Looks alot like my falco =O

Cept the people I play against really blow so you're probably better =p
 

th0rn

Smash Lord
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Feb 16, 2005
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IF you lose it's because you didn't spam enough lasers. I would also suggest working on teching.
 

InfiniteGXT

Smash Journeyman
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Nov 21, 2005
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Okay, let me be the first to actually critique you guys.

lexxil: When you were hit off the side, you tended to Phantasm in mid air. Never do this because someone could easily abuse your lag time. Instead of phantasming right away, try to sweet spot, or try to hit your opponent with it so that you are not risking as much. You still do not have complete control of falco (i.e. not sh-ing your l-s ;) etc.) but you still should try to use SHHFLed Nairs more in your approach than SHFFLed Dairs because of greater length, easiness to combo off of and on top of all that the Nair is a sex kick.

Dont Dtilt as much as you do. It is a good finisher for higher percentages, but as far as efficiency goes, pillaring, or just a simple shine are much better. I figured that the times you Fair'd were just technical accidents. Dont use Fairs at all unless you know exactly what you are doing. it is much better to Nair instead.

Two things I think you could really benefit from is LHDL and shield grabbing more. Especially in dittos and matches against very offensive people shield grabbing is a must if you want to control the battle. LHDL is probably falcos best ledge returning attack you could use. Learn to edge tech too. It is very useful in many cases.

Siruma: You seem to have a bit more tech skill than lexxil. Your main problem is that you try to do sort of fancy interceptions which backfire and lead to loss of stock. Like when you shield grab>bthrow off ledge and then try to spike lexxil in midair but overshoot your just leaving you open or allowing you to get hit by his recovery attack. In these matches you always try to attack first whereas lexxil waits for you to attack and then counters you. When it works it works. When it doesnt work, it REALLY doesnt work. I suggest you take a lesson from lexxil and wait for him to leave himself open instead of trying to overwhelm him with combos.

Just as I said to lexxil, dont use Fair that much. (maybe that comment was actually for you in the first place...) I dont particularly approve of all your rolling, but it doesnt really seem to be working against your that much.

Thats all I got :laugh:
 

lexxil

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Okay, thx for the critque...

I will try some LSHL and shieldgrabbing too...
And yes, when i did the fair it was an accidant, bcause i havnt got the full control of faclo yet...
But ive learned Edge Teching and im using it as often as possible ^.^
It always looks like "omf the pr0rz **** omfg wtfs..." but I think if you see a D-Smash comming its not that hard... XDD

And with the LSHL...should i learn the Double Leaser... is a Double Laser much better than a single?!

thank you all for comments again, next tim i hope i will show you fights against shiek.
I can combo shieks good( if they arnt spamming nairs, lol), but i neary cant finish them, you will see in the vids xDD

And yes.. i nearly never use the nair, relly gav e to learn it.
I even can FF the nair or im not use do it, because every dair is nearly FF automaticly... ill try to put the nair in my gameplay...
 

invertigo

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two lasers is twice as good as one :D
try to get both lasers low as possible.

nothing wrong with fairs, forward does it. lol jp

nairs are better than dairs. the only time i shuffle dairs is when i wanna shuffle past someone, usually followed by utilt or something
 

Doc_Holiday

Smash Ace
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Dec 6, 2005
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Salem Oregon
I don't know why all of you are praising these guys, sure they have the basics down but what they can't do is combo. If you can't combo with Falco against other fastfallers who are the most succeptable characters to his comboes(0-80 finish off with F-smash) then you shouldn't be considered good. Everyone can SHL and SHFFL and so I don't know where all of these other people are getting their "Oh you're so good" ideas from. On FD, shine>Wavedash>Dair>Shine>Wavedash>Dair>Shine>Wavedash>Dair>Dair>Fsmash or Shine in air to Dair>Some good finishing move.
 

invertigo

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OC (i go to uci) gxt.

doc i think theyre pretty good cuz they really dont make all that many mistakes. have you ever seen PC Chris play a fox or falco? he doesnt combo all that well, especially compared to other good falcos. yet pc is the best. tech skill is not a measure of how good a falco is.
 

InfiniteGXT

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Dont be so harsh Doc. I think what we all really meant was that they are good for beginners. They certainly aren't pros, just positive re-enforcement is all.

invertigo PM me if you ever come down to LA.
 

Doc_Holiday

Smash Ace
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Well one thing is wrong with your guys' whole "they're good for beginnners" thing, they never said they were beginners! It doesn't matter how many posts you have, post count doesn't measure skill, he said that he though he was a n00by smash player, I'll admit that they are better than I thought they would be but they don't have the whole grasp of Falco down. Falco is the games most offensive character, if they were any good they should at least be able to combo each other to 50% without failing because Falcos most effective combos are against other Fastfallers.
 

InfiniteGXT

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So what you are saying is that anyone who is a beginner isnt good at smash regardless of how good they are at that level?

Huh? What?

One would assume that they are generally new based on how good they actually are. If you play like a pro of course you have been playing for a while. If you play like a n00b you are probably new. They play like n00bs, but they arent crappy n00bs they are good n00bs @_@ nevermind!
 
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