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Must I wavebounce?

Nubis

Smash Cadet
Joined
Mar 15, 2008
Messages
34
Hello, I like to play as lucas.
Do I really have to Wavebounce PKF to have a good lucas?
I like to use the C-stick for quick smashing, pulling out his F-smash quickly.

So, Does wavebouncing make you so much better?
 

Levitas

the moon
Joined
Jul 20, 2007
Messages
5,734
Location
Ann Arbor, MI
Wavebouncing is really good. Something has to give, either get the wavebounce through analog controls (hard way) or bstick it. If you want proof that it's good, watch my vids.
 

Mikezor

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 22, 2006
Messages
433
Location
Centennial, Colorado
It's pretty good, you'll probably want it if you are going to compete in tournaments.

Edit: Forgot to say, you CAN wavebounce without b-sticking, there should be a thread somewhere in the Lucas forums telling you how if you would like to know.
 

Powda

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jul 20, 2007
Messages
154
Location
Vegas
Hey Levitas, does the C stick still go faster than smashing? I remember in melee it was faster but I can't tell in brawl...it seems the same. If so then cstick is pointless right?
 

Levitas

the moon
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Jul 20, 2007
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Ann Arbor, MI
It's not pointless due to the increased aerial control you get while attacking in the air. However, I think that the benefits outweigh the negatives in this case.
 

Trozz

Smash Ace
Joined
Mar 11, 2008
Messages
611
Location
Canada, BC
Use whichever style you prefer.

I think you're at a disadvantage if you don't have the pk fire technique in your arsenal, but that's just me.
 

Lucan Desmond

Smash Rookie
Joined
Mar 19, 2008
Messages
24
Location
Mass, USA
I'm just wondering what kind of situations wavebouncing is really useful in? I can see it being somewhat useful, but not something I'd be using very often. Anybody have some good examples, or videos, showing how it can be used most efficiently?
 

Metà

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 20, 2006
Messages
4,248
Location
Coquitlam (Vancouver), BC
I really haven't found it to be as essential as everyone says it is. Btw, I watched your videos, Levitas. Your Lucas is very good, but it seems like you're just using it for the sake of using it, when there are almost always better options available. I'll try to learn it, but I honestly think my Lucas is better off with out it. I'll get some vids up shortly demonstrating my abilities. I think I've developed a pretty solid playstyle with him based on aerial pressure and careful spacing--I also have some good combos involving auto-cancelling into tilts.
 

CFaLC

Smash Cadet
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
38
Location
Chicago, Illinois, US.
B-sticking is not necessary. It's just another style of play. Honestly, I like it. You pretty much get to deal damage while remaining at a safe distance. Also, as can be seen in Levitas' videos, it can catch your opponent off guard often. They go in to attack you and you can PK fire them and remain out of their reach. My Lucas has improved a ton because of b-sticking. Then again, it fits my play style very well. If it doesn't fit into yours, then don't use it. I do suggest at least trying it out before completely deciding you don't want to use it, though.
 
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