Mii Only Tournaments

[ミスティック Speed]

There is a certain subject that I'm sure most people here are aware of, the Mii-Fighters are not going to be permitted in the "For Glory' mode and the Mii will also be likely not to appear in the competitive scene as a result. However, I was thinking that the Mii's could have there own seperate competitive scene, where only they are permitted. Of course, there would be rules in line, such as the restriction of ...inappropriate characterization.... but otherwise, I think...with the Mii's obvious diversity, it could be a fun twist in the Smash community.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I would love it if some tournaments were like this.

 

[Number1MinunFan]

I support Mii and Amiibo Side Tournaments

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Thank you both, I would love for the community as the whole to take this under it's wing and have it be a real thing.

 

[Saikyoshi]

I don't like this, because:

1. We have enough problems with only three or four characters ever being chosen already. A scene that actively encourages this isn't going to be a very good one.

2. Doing this would lead them to not being taken seriously in tournaments that the scene is actually going to care about. Because honestly, hardly anybody follows side tournaments.

As everyone here knows, I will support to the death allowing Miis unrestricted in main tournaments, and this will absolutely get in the way of that.

 

[タオー]

It's hard to say whether the mii's are going to be able to be incorporated into main tournaments, but the customizable move sets just seem way too good to pass up. It's a whole other level to the smash meta game that I am rather excited about.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Wouldn't these kind of Tournaments have too many Hitlers and Butt Faces? I know it is childish, but if this is planning on being an Online Tournament, then those are the kinds of Miis that will show up very often.

 

[タオー]

Wouldn't these kind of Tournaments have too many Hitlers and Butt Faces? I know it is childish, but if this is planning on being an Online Tournament, then those are the kinds of Miis that will show up very often.

I honestly don't see why that'd be inherently bad.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I honestly don't see why that'd be inherently bad.

Not saying having a Mii Tournament would be bad, just saying that you guys would get some inappropriate challengers.

Though, I would like a Mii Tournament.

 

[タオー]

I can see inappropriate challengers being banned from serious tournaments for the sake of the scenes image, If it's made as part of the regulation tournament policies I don't see why it couldn't be controlled.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I can see inappropriate challengers being banned from serious tournaments for the sake of the scenes image, If it's made as part of the regulation tournament policies I don't see why it couldn't be controlled.

That was what I worried most, but now that it would be more controlled, that makes me more comfortable with it.

 

[Delzethin]

I was just thinking of something like this a while back. It was more as a side attraction kind of thing, though, not a major tournament.

And hopefully alternate specials aren't banned from the get go. There's a massive amount of potential depth there as long as it's regulated in a fair way. Even if they were, I'm willing to bet the Mii Fighters' default specials would still be allowed.

 

[greenluigiman2]

We have enough problems with only three or four characters ever being chosen already. A scene that actively encourages this isn't going to be a very good one.

The whole point of Miis is that they're extremely customizable to the point where each person's Mii would be different than everyone else's. There are 3 types of Miis, with 12 different special moves to mix and match, and at least 3 different size variations. This doesn't even take appearance into account.

Doing this would lead them to not being taken seriously in tournaments that the scene is actually going to care about. Because honestly, hardly anybody follows side tournaments.

Miis were never taken seriously before they were in Smash, and I doubt they'll be taken seriously now, even if they're allowed in regular tournaments. They're Miis. Who is going to be excited about Rick the Brawler Mii ending up being the character who comes out on top in big a tournament? Only the person who created and played as Rick the Brawler Mii. I think the decision to ban Miis from regular tournaments will be easier than the decision to ban Meta Knight.

However, not being taken seriously can be used to their advantage. The idea of a side tournament is that it needs to compliment the main tournament, and if the main tournament is super serious, then the side tournament should be more carefree and fun, and Mii only tournaments would be extremely fun to watch. They'd be a lot more interesting than doubles tournaments.

 

[Saikyoshi]

The whole point of Miis is that they're extremely customizable to the point where each person's Mii would be different than everyone else's. There are 3 types of Miis, with 12 different special moves to mix and match, and at least 3 different size variations. This doesn't even take appearance into account.


Miis were never taken seriously before they were in Smash, and I doubt they'll be taken seriously now, even if they're allowed in regular tournaments. They're Miis. Who is going to be excited about Rick the Brawler Mii ending up being the character who comes out on top in big a tournament? Only the person who created and played as Rick the Brawler Mii. I think the decision to ban Miis from regular tournaments will be easier than the decision to ban Meta Knight.

However, not being taken seriously can be used to their advantage. The idea of a side tournament is that it needs to compliment the main tournament, and if the main tournament is super serious, then the side tournament should be more carefree and fun, and Mii only tournaments would be extremely fun to watch. They'd be a lot more interesting than doubles tournaments.

That doesn't change the fact that characters who are not overpowered should not be banned from important tournaments, period.

 

[greenluigiman2]

That doesn't change the fact that characters who are not overpowered should not be banned from important tournaments, period.

Miis are not characters. They're templates. They're avatars. They're blank slates. They are what the player makes them, and while I'm a big fan of their inclusion, in my opinion they have no place in regular/main competitive tournaments.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Miis are not characters, they're templates. They're avatars. They're blank slates.in my opinion they should be banned.

So are the Villager and Robin in their respective games.

 

[greenluigiman2]

So are the Villager and Robin in their respective games.

Of course, but I'm talking specifically about this game. If you could customize Villager to the extent that you can customize Miis then I'd want him/her to be banned as well, but that's not the case. In Smash, Villager and Robin have defined appearances, stats and movesets, while every aspect of Miis is customizable. And If they're only allowed if they remain uncustomized (default) then it's completely ignoring and destroying the concept of Miis.

Miis just bring too much baggage.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Of course, but I'm talking specifically about this game. If you could customize Villager to the extent that you can customize Miis then I'd want him/her to be banned as well, but that's not the case. In Smash, Villager and Robin have defined appearances, stats and movesets, while every aspect of Miis is customizable. And If they're only allowed if they remain uncustomized (default) then it's completely ignoring and destroying the concept of Miis.

Miis just bring too much baggage.

That's why I feel they should be allowed unrestricted. They're not overpowered, and coming up with restrictions feels like a lot of unnecessary effort and just trying to ban something for the sake of banning something.

Customizability is not a good reason to ban something. At all.

 

[タオー]

IIRC the other characters also have custom movesets of at least 3 different moves per special (B moves). The mii's all have predefined normal attacks just like the rest of the cast. I do however agree that it'd be less exciting to have a reigning mii challenger taking home the glory as opposed to an actual character.

 

[Saikyoshi]

IIRC the other characters also have custom movesets of at least 3 different moves per special (B moves). The mii's all have predefined normal attacks just like the rest of the cast. I do however agree that it'd be less exciting to have a reigning mii challenger taking home the glory as opposed to an actual character.

If we banned things just for being less exciting, we wouldn't be able to choose Yoshi's Story as the stage for the Grand Finals, or the Ice Climbers in Brawl.

 

[タオー]

If we banned things just for being less exciting, we wouldn't be able to choose Yoshi's Story as the stage for the Grand Finals, or the Ice Climbers in Brawl.

I wasn't saying its cause for banning, just that I saw the merit in his point.