Melee or Smash 4

[Shinobi1]

I just started getting into the competitive scene of Super Smash Bros once Smash 4 came out. I was thinking that I would practice Smash 4 on the 3ds until the Wii U version comes out and then I would start going to tournaments and stuff. But after watching Melee gameplay it seemed much more popular and looked pretty fun, but it would probably take a year or two of practice to actually get good at. So should I continue to play Smash 4 and when the Wii U version comes out start going to tournaments, or should I start playing Melee. If you think I should play both how much time should I spend practicing on each game?

 

[AirFair]

If you play melee, then you have got a long road ahead of you for sure, but it's never too late to get into the scene. Smash 4 wouldn't be as much practice as melee I think but it's definitely just as popular due to how fresh it is. On average, it will take about a month or two to learn and start using the fundamentals of melee more, but sm4sh you can jump into fairly quickly

You have a lot more options to play against other people if you decide to play sm4sh and a lot less if you play melee (plus you might want a crt if you want to get good and play at tournaments). That being said the choice is yours. I would say melee but that's just my bias because I love how fast paced and technical it is, not to say that sm4sh is bad ( I love that game too )

 

[Kuraudo]

As someone whose competitively played Melee, Brawl and Project M (and Smash 3DS evidently so), there are lessons to be learned from all of those games. It's easier to get into Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U because those games are brand new and the metagame is still developing and you could be someone that discovers new technology, where Melee (while the well runs deep) has a lot of the knowledge laid out for you and you get a decent idea of where to start. However jumping immediately into Fox unless you've got tech fingers already from the start can be rough. The off-stage edgeguarding game in Smash 4 is actually incredible in my opinion, and the on-stage momentum in Melee is also hype-inducing.

With not as much hitstun as in Melee (though enough for some proper links and kill set-ups), what Smash 3DS does teach you is properly reading your opponent and conditioning them for even better kill situations, whereas Melee can usually involve one/two reads leading to an opponent's stock a tad easier.

I pursue Smash 3DS right now, but continue to play Melee and Project M cause I find Sheik (Melee) and Charizard (Project M) are fun characters to play.

Like AirFair said, your choice. The character diversity and smoothness of the game (which'll get better on Wii U) is why I prefer Smash 3DS right now.

 

[Shinobi1]

As someone whose competitively played Melee, Brawl and Project M (and Smash 3DS evidently so), there are lessons to be learned from all of those games. It's easier to get into Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U because those games are brand new and the metagame is still developing and you could be someone that discovers new technology, where Melee (while the well runs deep) has a lot of the knowledge laid out for you and you get a decent idea of where to start. However jumping immediately into Fox unless you've got tech fingers already from the start can be rough. The off-stage edgeguarding game in Smash 4 is actually incredible in my opinion, and the on-stage momentum in Melee is also hype-inducing.

With not as much hitstun as in Melee (though enough for some proper links and kill set-ups), what Smash 3DS does teach you is properly reading your opponent and conditioning them for even better kill situations, whereas Melee can usually involve one/two reads leading to an opponent's stock a tad easier.

I pursue Smash 3DS right now, but continue to play Melee and Project M cause I find Sheik (Melee) and Charizard (Project M) are fun characters to play.

Like AirFair said, your choice. The character diversity and smoothness of the game (which'll get better on Wii U) is why I prefer Smash 3DS right now.

If you play melee, then you have got a long road ahead of you for sure, but it's never too late to get into the scene. Smash 4 wouldn't be as much practice as melee I think but it's definitely just as popular due to how fresh it is. On average, it will take about a month or two to learn and start using the fundamentals of melee more, but sm4sh you can jump into fairly quickly

You have a lot more options to play against other people if you decide to play sm4sh and a lot less if you play melee (plus you might want a crt if you want to get good and play at tournaments). That being said the choice is yours. I would say melee but that's just my bias because I love how fast paced and technical it is, not to say that sm4sh is bad ( I love that game too )

Thank you both for the help, I will probably try to get better at Smash 4 and if I win some tournaments I might start playing some melee.

 

[AirFair]

Your very welcome. That's what we do as a community

 

[Sketch]

Play both . If you find yourself liking one game substantially more you can also just drop the other. But playing smash in general will get you better even if they're not the same ( IMO ofc)

 

[Spak]

Play both . If you find yourself liking one game substantially more you can also just drop the other. But playing smash in general will get you better even if they're not the same ( IMO ofc)

While this is true, Sm4sh is a lot more dependant on rolling, while in Melee you can easily be punished for a wrong roll, so make sure not to develop bad habits. Also, the air-dodging is obviously copletely different, but I haven't had trouble with the air-dodges while switching back and forth because the air-dodging mechanics in the two games are so vastly different.

 

[Salmon]

I am playing both equally. I enjoy both equally. I understand and realise both games have their pro's and con's but I still like them both. I never wanted Sm4sh to "be" like melee. I wanted Sm4sh to be something fresh and exciting, which I think it certainly has achieved. It feels like a smash game I have never played before. Which is exactly what I wanted.

I agree that Sm4sh is not as technically demanding nor as fast. I'm fine with that. The game with those attributes is melee and that is why I love melee in that regard. Play the one that you think you would enjoy. I think all of us here CAN agree that both are fun in their own unique way. That's just my 2c though.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

While this is true, Sm4sh is a lot more dependant on rolling, while in Melee you can easily be punished for a wrong roll, so make sure not to develop bad habits. Also, the air-dodging is obviously copletely different, but I haven't had trouble with the air-dodges while switching back and forth because the air-dodging mechanics in the two games are so vastly different.

uhhh no. Rolling is very punishable in smash 4, the reason people get away with it more on the 3ds is due to the controller.

 

[Spak]

uhhh no. Rolling is very punishable in smash 4, the reason people get away with it more on the 3ds is due to the controller.

It feels like the roll itself is quicker and has more invincibility frames, but it might be the controller. We'll see when the Wii U version comes out.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It feels like the roll itself is quicker and has more invincibility frames, but it might be the controller. We'll see when the Wii U version comes out.

Even when not on it, it's really dang easy to punish a roll.

 

[Spak]

Even when not on it, it's really dang easy to punish a roll.

Seems harder, but I've played a LOT more Melee than Sm4sh, so it may just be a lack of experience in the new game. You've probably put more time into it, so I'll trust you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Seems harder, but I've played a LOT more Melee than Sm4sh, so it may just be a lack of experience in the new game. You've probably put more time into it, so I'll trust you.

I mained Lucario in Brawl so I'm more or less used to people with strong rolls, it's not that hard to punish as from what I've been seeing of better players at Smash 4 rolls aren't at all as good as people think they are.

an option? Yes, but it's still punishable.

 

[Jackson]

My old situation was sort of like yours. I played Brawl throughout my late childhood and eventually got competitive with it as I got older, although I never went to a tournament. I eventually played a bit of PM and thought it was... okay. After playing Melee which I had around, I LOVED how it felt a lot more than PM, and I started getting into melee. Yes, it's hard to get better, but it's starting to get really fun as my combo game improves. I've got my friends into it, and I even went to a local tourney (did badly, but it was fun and inspiring)! So, all in all, Smash 4 is easy to get into (like Brawl) but from my experience, Melee is more fun and rewarding. I'll probably play both but focus on Melee more. I recommend the same to you, good luck!

 

[JoeTango]

If probably won't take that a year or two of practice to get decent at melee as long as you work at it often. I would say play melee because it is more fun to watch simply because of how much faster it is. And if it is more fun to watch you will enjoy tournaments more because lets face it, no one plays the entire time due to the set-up to player ratio

 

[TehNub]

I play both. Melee will always be fantastic, but Smash 4 has potential. We'll see where it goes.

 

[Trickerhere]

You should play both Smash Wii U and Melee! I am playing the 3DS version to prep for the Wii U version later this year. As for me I am playing Smash 3DS and Melee right now. However, when Smash Wii U comes out, I will be focusing on Smash Wii U only.

 

[Jackson]

You should play both Smash Wii U and Melee! I am playing the 3DS version to prep for the Wii U version later this year. As for me I am playing Smash 3DS and Melee right now. However, when Smash Wii U comes out, I will be focusing on Smash Wii U only.

This is basically me. I still plan to play melee a bit more though.

 

[Spak]

Honestly, I don't think Smash 4 3DS will last very long because there will always be lag and the controller isn't that great, but I think Melee and Smash 4 Wii U will both still be around for a long time. The only concern I have is if anyone finds a glitch or exploit (like Wavedashing or Dacus), Nintendo can now patch the game. I am excited that Nintendo can actually balance the game post-release now so that there will (hopefully) be no OP their.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

3DS is portable and has Smash Run, after that though...the WII U version blows it out of the water outside of potential few stages on the 3DS.

Plus running a 3DS tournament has the issue of wireless interference.

 

[Trickerhere]

I love both the games! Melee and Smash 4 are the top 2 games in the series imo.

This is basically me. I still plan to play melee a bit more though.

Oh cool! I am learning Melee right now. So hyped for Smash Wii U only game I need and Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix .

 

[Jackson]

Oh cool! I am learning Melee right now so I still might play like here and there. But so hyped for Smash Wii U only game I need and Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix .

Yeah, I'm hype for it too. Gonna try to get good at it quickly.