Marth Vs Falcon general matchup info?

[Gいたん]

Anybody got any good matchup info I could study for Marth vs Falcon?
Best things in the neutral, how I should be playing against him, etc?

 

[djmath]

like most marth matchups, whoever gets the grabs wins the game. down throw leads to tech chases and regrabs. most people say downthrow techchase until falcon runs out of stage to tech on and then edgeguard him, but it's not always this simple. also, kadano has his amazing upthrow follow up guide on falcon http://smashboards.com/threads/kada...data-application.337035/page-17#post-16635855

as for the rest of the neutral, getting hit or grabbed by falcon is bad. if your defensive game isn't on point you're going to get rekt hardcore because I honestly think a good falcon can go in balls deep on marth. If your dashdancing, spacing, and baiting are on point, falcon will overcommit to an approach and you'll have the opportunity to punish. but if you're only kinda/sorta dash dancing, or you're not spaced correctly, or you make the mistake of approaching as marth instead of poking or baiting, then you will have a very hard time winning this MU. Falcon can outmaneuver you hands down, so you really have to play smart and use grabs to control the pace of the match.

that's the simple gist of it, I'm sure other people can provide more detailed and situational info

 

[Yokubou]

Marth and Falcon can combo each other to oblivion. Just remember Isai's wise words.

 

[Gいたん]

like most marth matchups, whoever gets the grabs wins the game. down throw leads to tech chases and regrabs. most people say downthrow techchase until falcon runs out of stage to tech on and then edgeguard him, but it's not always this simple. also, kadano has his amazing upthrow follow up guide on falcon http://smashboards.com/threads/kadano’s-perfect-marth-class—advanced-frame-data-application.337035/page-17#post-16635855

as for the rest of the neutral, getting hit or grabbed by falcon is bad. if your defensive game isn't on point you're going to get rekt hardcore because I honestly think a good falcon can go in balls deep on marth. If your dashdancing, spacing, and baiting are on point, falcon will overcommit to an approach and you'll have the opportunity to punish. but if you're only kinda/sorta dash dancing, or you're not spaced correctly, or you make the mistake of approaching as marth instead of poking or baiting, then you will have a very hard time winning this MU. Falcon can outmaneuver you hands down, so you really have to play smart and use grabs to control the pace of the match.

that's the simple gist of it, I'm sure other people can provide more detailed and situational info

Thanks a ton, man. Will look into all this

Marth and Falcon can combo each other to oblivion. Just remember Isai's wise words.

not getting hit is pretty obvious thank

 

[MarthZ]

at 30% falcon gets real easy to chain grab by 65% pumel once then up throw if a falcon is about to end a combo with a knee use counter
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