marth problems

[invertigo]

im having problems against a marth. even though i am shffling with the l cancel and ff he still seems to be able to shield grab me even before i can land.

if you dair from a ff'd full jump, is it always possible to shine before he can grab? cuz i swear he is always grabbing me before i hit the ground even with ff

sometimes when i shuffle he will use a light shield to knock him back farther then grab me cuz my shine misses.

any tips against these?

honestly, i can beat him easily. but i am getting mad that im getting caught by something like shield grabbing.

 

[AS Money]

there is no way for marth to sheild grab if the piller is done right

 

[PetaNybble]

I had a friend like that, so instead of going up to him and do a nair or a dair, I jump just a bit behind him and did a bair, and he couldn't grab me, eventually he abandoned the strategy.