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Marth "Chain Grab" Quick Question

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Somaiah

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Ok, so...

I recently played a fellow smasher at college, and he does this revolutionary strategy where he backthrows you, and techchases (forever) into repeated backthrows. Then side smashes when you are ~70%, without ever pressing A beforehand.

Now this only works on Final Destination. He has no other strategy--any stages with platforms I destroy him on. Also, I still beat him on FD anyway, so don't count me out there, haha.

Mixing up techs/get-up attacking (as Fox/Falco/Shiek) doesn't seem to work consistently enough (1/10 times), so how do I escape? I have tried DI'ing away and up (pretty sure smash DI doesn't do anything from grabs, from what I've read a long time ago), and it just doesn't do it either. It's a pretty nooby strategy, and it's the only noob tactic I've ever had any trouble against in yeeaaaars.

Anyone have any ideas? -_-'
 

Mahie

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  • Don't DI up. You want to land as fast as possible, to tech while he's still in the throw animation. Bthrow is bad like that, so I would suggest down and away + tech away or something.
  • Don't tech. Just wait for him to come and if he's a noob and has bad control, just use the get up attack to hit him.
  • If he does shield, just roll behind him when he comes to you, and unless he knows how to WD oos properly he won't punish you.
  • Learn not to get grabbed because you should get hard punished anyway against a Marth who does regular chaingrabs.
 

.Ðempt

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  • Don't DI up. You want to land as fast as possible, to tech while he's still in the throw animation. Bthrow is bad like that, so I would suggest down and away + tech away or something.
  • Don't tech. Just wait for him to come and if he's a noob and has bad control, just use the get up attack to hit him.
  • If he does shield, just roll behind him when he comes to you, and unless he knows how to WD oos properly he won't punish you.
  • Learn not to get grabbed because you should get hard punished anyway against a Marth who does regular chaingrabs.
This. Idk who you play as, but Marth punishes hard out of grabs. Willing to bet you keep blindly approaching and he's reading/reacting well.
 
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Somaiah

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Well I play Falco/Marth/Fox mainly, and I use SHFFL'd aerials to shines and/or cross-ups every time (out of dash dancing), so I wouldn't call that "blindly approaching." :/ I think the main reason I was falling into his shield grabs was because I hadn't slept in 64+ hours when I played him, and I wasn't consistently doing either approaches. I was light-headed, but I don't like to john and make up excuses--I'm assuming it's my fault here. That may have been the reason for my poor play, but regardless I can update this after trying the DI away/down method, which seems to work well in creating distance.
 
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Somaiah

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Just a quick update, I completely forgot about this post.

Turns out that his back-throw strategy really had no merit, I was likely flustered by my lack of sleep and the stress of the situation. My Marth and Fox both had no trouble in beating it using proper mindgames/dash dancing at our later meetings.

The advice is still helpful though, thanks to you guys again.
 
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