Mario' Dair

[Road Death Wheel]

Now i liked both the d air from brawl and from melee. the both did well for combo openers. So what im asking is what one u prefer? i personally liked the D air from brawl a bit more but thats my opinion you?

 

[Louis Drust]

Now i liked both the d air from brawl and from melee. the both did well for combo openers. So what im asking is what one u prefer? i personally liked the D air from brawl a bit more but thats my opinion you?

I don't have a problem with either of the Dairs, other than the one in Brawl was basically there because of the FLUDD taking over down special. And the FLUDD is the worst.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

I don't have a problem with either of the Dairs, other than the one in Brawl was basically there because of the FLUDD taking over down special. And the FLUDD is the worst.

Ah the FLUDD i dunno iv seen some cool thing with it and it pushback seems way better in smash 4.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

The Melee Dair is really much better. Mario's Brawl dair and it's forced yoo-hoo animation takes too long to resolve to realistically lead into a good number of combos. Additionally, I have a sneaking feeling that with L-Cancelling gone, we're going to see auto-cancelled aerials as the next 'fast' way to play the game, and Mario's Brawl dair doesn't lend itself to that either. His combo game flows very naturally from the Melee dair and needs to make a return.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

The Melee Dair is really much better. Mario's Brawl dair and it's forced yoo-hoo animation takes too long to resolve to realistically lead into a good number of combos. Additionally, I have a sneaking feeling that with L-Cancelling gone, we're going to see auto-cancelled aerials as the next 'fast' way to play the game, and Mario's Brawl dair doesn't lend itself to that either. His combo game flows very naturally from the Melee dair and needs to make a return.

from what we seen though. it has not returned. and yeah the melee one was better for comboing but brawls d air was just ********, its hitbox was insane Xd so i can see use for both of them and in the video between megaman and mario the d air dose look faster so comboing might be a plus

 

[Jackson]

I would like to see a more Melee-ish one for combos.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

I would like to see a more Melee-ish one for combos.

Yeah i can understand that but if the last hit in the current down air he has knocks you just above him that would be great for comboing.

 

[Knight Dude]

I know that the Melee one was pretty good to use. I can't say I had too many complaints about the Brawl one, it was okay. Though I kind of wanted him to have a Ground Pound as a Down Air, since Mario's had one since Mario 64. I kind of feel like it's a signature move of his. I guess the reason he doesn't have one is that Yoshi and Bowser have some of their own.

 

[_yuna]

Additionally, I have a sneaking feeling that with L-Cancelling gone, we're going to see auto-cancelled aerials as the next 'fast' way to play the game, and Mario's Brawl dair doesn't lend itself to that either.

Are you implying L-cancelling was present in Brawl? Because it wasn't. Also, Mario's Melee Dair isn't particularly useful in regards to his combo game either. As a full-hop aerial approach it can lead into up-tilts, but apart from that it's not that relevant to his combo game.

 

[PlamZ]

I just found out something pretty cool.

When using short-hop down air (Needs to be done quick), the moves finishes just fast enough so that it auto-cancels, making Mario able to follow-up with another move before the opponent comes out of hit-stun.

I have no video card to capture but those with the demo can try it.

 

[Gidy]

I think he also has magnetism towards where foes are going during the move.

How did he follow megaman so high?

 

[Poxnixles]

I think he also has magnetism towards where foes are going during the move.

How did he follow megaman so high?

Probably bounced on Rush.

 

[Hardpelicn]

If you hit shield with the last hitbox of dair, you can throw out a really quick nair, which then autocancels into a free grab if the nair didn't shield poke.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Just saying, none of the stuff that is mentioned is new. Mario always had combos off Dair in Brawl. And his shield pressure was above average with it.

Exact numbers concerning the move would be appreciated though.

 

[TastyCarcass]

short hop, dodge into someone, dair. You can combo off that and you're invinsible until the dair comes out. Cheap as hell

 

[BoTastic!]

A2Z's right, not much has changed about the Dair. In fact I think not much as changed about Mario at all.

But that just means I don't have to adjust too much to play him. I can be a badass again.. just this time in a better game! :D

 

[Fire!]

That is if you can get around those new awful Fireballs...

 

[BoTastic!]

Yeah this time around I don't find much reason to use his fireball. >_<

 

[WarioJim]

That is if you can get around those new awful Fireballs...

Yeah this time around I don't find much reason to use his fireball. >_<

...Wha...?

What is it with people and Mario...?

 

[A2ZOMG]

On the topic of Fireballs, yeah they're worse for approaching now evidently. But they're still good for limiting your opponent's mobility, and edgeguarding. Also if you have no other options, you can catch landings with them for free damage.

 

[MarioMariox2]

...Wha...?

What is it with people and Mario...?

I don't think you'll ever understand, Wario.