M4FD's water team

[mood4food77]

water, probably my favorite type...anyways, i tried creating a mono water team, it seems alright, i made this team on shoddy battle completely ripped off smogon, somethings on it i don't like, so help me out on what needs to be changed

empoleon@leftovers
Calm
252/128/128 (SP.DEF/SP.ATK/HP)
Surf
Grass Knot
Roar
ice beam/gyro ball

i'll make him into a phazer, but don't know whether to choose ice beam or gyro ball, most likely ice beam though

Floatzel@Choice Band
Adamant
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Brick Break
Crunch
Ice Fang
Waterfall

i chose waterfall over aqua jet for power, the rest is for type coverage

Swampert@Leftovers
Impish
252/252/6 (ATK/DEF/HP)
Avalanche
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Waterfall

sweeping/SEer swampert...

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Modest
Swift Swim
252/154/104 (SP.ATK/HP/SPD)
Energy Ball
Ice Beam
Rain Dance
Surf

what good is a mono water team without a rain dancer

Kingdra@Mystic Water/Damp Rock (shoddy doesn't have damp rock for whatever reason)
Lonely
Swift Swim
252/252/6 (SP.ATK/SPD/HP)
Dragon Pulse
Surf
Raindance
ice beam/HP electric

raindancer number 2, i didn't realize what a crappy moveset kingdra had, i mean it learns nothing else but normal, ice, water, and dragon attacks, with the exception of gyro ball, toxic, rest, and agility, so it's not really a sweeper poke, but i'm making it special sweep cause of it's much better special movepool than physical

Slowbro@Leftovers
Bold
Own Tempo
254/216/40 (SP.DEF/HP/SP.ATK)
rain dance
slack off
surf
calm mind

now, he tanks and can help set up with rain dance, i don't know if it'll work or not though


so there it is, rate, criticize, improve, do whatever you want to this team

 

[ss118]

I always have a Lanturn on my water teams.

 

[mood4food77]

the only problem with laturn is that his stats, but health, suck

 

[MysticKenji]

Why is Kingdra Lonely? He should be Rash.

 

[mood4food77]

i told you, i basically ripped al those sets off of smogon, and they had his nature lonely

should i make slowbro into a raindancer?

 

[IC3R]

You realize Slowking has way better Special Defense than Slowbro, and it can be your first Special Wall, another Special Sweeper, an Annoyer, or a FlinchHax!

Special Wall Slowking
@ Leftovers @ Own Tempo
Calm Nature
EV - HP 252, SpAt 6, SpDf 252
Water Pulse
Calm Mind
Slack Off
Thunder Wave


Special Sweeper Slowking
@ Wisdom Glasses @ Own Tempo
Modest Nature
EV - HP 252, SpAt 252, SpDf 6
Psychic
Hidden Power (Fighting)
Nasty Plot
Thunder Wave


Annoying Slowking
@ Leftovers @ Own Tempo
Calm Nature
EV - HP 252, Def 180, SpDf 178
Brine
Slack Off
Substitute
Thunder Wave


FlinchHax Slowking (also functions as Physi-Sweeper!)
@ King's Rock (weird, huh?) @ Own Tempo
Adamant Nature
EV - HP 252, Att 252, Def 6
Zen Headbutt
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Thunder Wave
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Those are my personally customized Slowkings. Satisfaction guaranteed! or your money back...

(You didn't pay squat, so you ain't gettin' squat!) LOL

 

[outofdashdwz]

I'd use something like Bronzong (if you're only going for the water theme as opposed to a full water typed team) to start the Rain Dance and also conveniently take Draco Meteors, because right now, nothing can switch into SpecsMence's Draco Meteor. Issues with Azelf as well. After a Nasty Plot, Azelf either OHKOs or does like 80%+ to all of your Pokemon in one hit. Slowbro doesn't like Grass Knot. Starmie with its gigantic movepool can throw some stuff you don't like and as can Gengar.
Interestingly, I can't seem to pick out any glaring problems that mono teams often have. Water is one of the better types to make mono teams out of. Basically, you're missing a solid special wall. You can't take out Swampert or Electivire and friends screw you and you can't take out Slowbro or Gyarados sweeps you. I'd have a special sponge over Ludicolo or something. If you're only going to use water typed Pokemon, I don't have too many suggestions =/ Mantine has enormous SpDef... But realistically speaking, Milotic is probably your best bet. You'd have to go full SpDef to even think about walling SpecsMence though. The old ADV Standard with bold and minimal SpDef no longer works. Maybe something like... 252 HP/32 Def/224 SDef and maybe running Light Screen for the rest of your team.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

You realize Slowking has way better Special Defense than Slowbro, and it can be your first Special Wall, another Special Sweeper, an Annoyer, or a FlinchHax!

Special Wall Slowking
@ Leftovers @ Own Tempo
Calm Nature
EV - HP 252, SpAt 6, SpDf 252
Water Pulse
Calm Mind
Slack Off
Thunder Wave


Special Sweeper Slowking
@ Wisdom Glasses @ Own Tempo
Modest Nature
EV - HP 252, SpAt 252, SpDf 6
Psychic
Hidden Power (Fighting)
Nasty Plot
Thunder Wave


Annoying Slowking
@ Leftovers @ Own Tempo
Calm Nature
EV - HP 252, Def 180, SpDf 178
Brine
Slack Off
Substitute
Thunder Wave


FlinchHax Slowking (also functions as Physi-Sweeper!)
@ King's Rock (weird, huh?) @ Own Tempo
Adamant Nature
EV - HP 252, Att 252, Def 6
Zen Headbutt
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Thunder Wave
--------------------------
Those are my personally customized Slowkings. Satisfaction guaranteed! or your money back...

(You didn't pay squat, so you ain't gettin' squat!) LOL

Didn't I tell you before that FlinchHax only works for Pokemon with Serene Grace?

As outofdash said, Milotic with EVs crammed into HP and Special Defense would be your best Special Wall.

Also, like outofdash said, you could use Bronzong as your lead. I used Bronzong as my lead on my Rain Dance team with Damp Rock. He set up Stealth Rock and Rain Dance (that lasted 8 turns) as well as putting the opponent's Pokemon asleep with Hypnosis. With Levitate, Bronzong's only weakness is Fire, and as you should know, Fire's power is weakened if it's raining, which is pretty neat.

Lanturn does works good as a Special Wall. It's resistant to Flamethrower, Surf and Ice Beam and immune to Thunderbolt, all four very common Special Attacks. Unfortuantly, Water team don't have a problem with the first three and Swampert can take the Thunderbolts.

You should watch out for Jolteons and Zapdos with HP Grass, because they'd tear this team apart.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[ss118]

Isn't empoleon the best specsmence counter?

 

[Coen]

****, I got into this topic guessing the Pokemon would be Swampert, Gyarados, Kingdra, Ludicolo, Slowbro and something else I didn't know. You are teh_predictable ;p

Anyway, it looks nice. Lanturn or Empoleon certainly would be a nice addition.

 

[Shiri]

Needs more Omastar.

Also, Coen wrecks water teams for free. It's true.

 

[IC3R]

M4F...new suggestion...

Don't rip off someone else's overly-predictable team; along with being poorly built, it's too easy to beat...

It's difficult to make a good solid "theme team," as Buju put it, so you need some Pokemon to cover up weaknesses...

It would probably be best if you came up with a team by yourself, and get back to us...

Sorry, dude...

 

[mood4food77]

i didn't rip this off of anyone, it's my team

and i did come up with the team myself, the movesets i ripped off of smogon only because i never used those pokes before so i didn' tknow what kind of movesets were good

and it's not that easy to beat, it's had some success

also, i think i'll remove gyarados for someone else and turn slowbro into a raindancer, gyarados just doesn't seem to work well with the rest of the pokes

i might go empoleon

and the reason why i go slowbro over slowking is because slowbro is much better than slowking

i might make my own slowbro moveset

 

[IC3R]

i didn't rip this off of anyone, it's my team

and i did come up with the team myself, the movesets i ripped off of smogon only because i never used those pokes before so i didn' tknow what kind of movesets were good

And that's why we have an RMT Forum...Thanks for choosing us!

and it's not that easy to beat, it's had some success

Okay...I wanna test my Water team against it...(Didn't think I had one, didja? Huh, huh, huh? Heh heh, I don't have a DS...

also, i think i'll remove gyarados for someone else and turn slowbro into a raindancer, gyarados just doesn't seem to work well with the rest of the pokes

i might go empoleon

Empoleon rulez...

and the reason why i go slowbro over slowking is because slowbro is much better than slowking

In what way, specificly?

i might make my own slowbro moveset

Don't get mad, get Glad!
......

 

[mood4food77]

slowbro is better than slowking just for the fact slowbro gets slack off while slowking doesn't, and he can also use a calm mind set much more effectively than slowking because he can take physical hits much better than slowking can, while curse can be good and screw up trick room teams, it's the fact that slowking doesn't have a reliable recovery move

IC3R, i've been here longer than you, i know what's around here

besides, the raters aren't supposed to give movesets for pokes

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

slowbro is better than slowking just for the fact slowbro gets slack off while slowking doesn't, and he can also use a calm mind set much more effectively than slowking because he can take physical hits much better than slowking can, while curse can be good and screw up trick room teams, it's the fact that slowking doesn't have a reliable recovery move

IC3R, i've been here longer than you, i know what's around here

besides, the raters aren't supposed to give movesets for pokes

Slowpoke can learn Slack Off.

Overall, Slowbro is better mainly because of Calm Mind.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

thank you wii4mii

but yea, slowking can't make that great use of curse

but anyways, fighting on shoddy battle, people said the team is pretty decent

i might turn ludicolo into an annoyer

the only problem i have with laturn is that other than HP, it's other stats are crap, excluding HP, his next highest BS for a stat is 76

i could use omastar, kabutops, relicanth, cloyster, poliwrath, tentacruel, lapras, gyarados, vaporeon, millotic, starmie, and octillery has other options, but really, i think the team looks pretty solid as is

 

[IC3R]

slowbro is better than slowking just for the fact slowbro gets slack off while slowking doesn't, and he can also use a calm mind set much more effectively than slowking because he can take physical hits much better than slowking can, while curse can be good and screw up trick room teams, it's the fact that slowking doesn't have a reliable recovery move

IC3R, i've been here longer than you, i know what's around here

That was a little harsh...

besides, the raters aren't supposed to give movesets for pokes

Okay...no more...

But I am even on to something, here? If not, I'll stop wasting my time...and yours...

Wii4Mii, I'm sad!!! Do something stupid, please... J/K

 

[mood4food77]

no, i thought you were trying to make me like a fool like someone has done in the past

it's cool

and i got yelled at for putting up question marks on a poke that i didn't know what to do so instead of getting yelled at again, i went to smogon for movesets, i don't agree with some of them but meh, whatcha gonna do about


wii4mii, can we get a rating of this team on a the wiiscale

 

[IC3R]

no, i thought you were trying to make me like a fool like someone has done in the past

Heavens, no...I'm not evil like that...

it's cool

Thank goodness, I put you on my Buddy list yesterday, and I didn't want you to be the first to go off...

and i got yelled at for putting up question marks on a poke that i didn't know what to do so instead of getting yelled at again, i went to smogon for movesets, i don't agree with some of them but meh, whatcha gonna do about

I tried to do something about it, but you yelled at me...

wii4mii, can we get a rating of this team on a the wiiscale

So, Wii4Mii has a word coined in his honor? Neat...

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

But I am even on to something, here? If not, I'll stop wasting my time...and yours...

Wii4Mii, I'm sad!!! Do something stupid, please... J/K

hay gyz i can pwnz you wit ma Flail Sweeping Magikarp.

Magikarp @ Salac Berry
Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
-Splash
-Tackle
-Flail

wat now gyz? u scared 2 face mii?

no, i thought you were trying to make me like a fool like someone has done in the past

it's cool

and i got yelled at for putting up question marks on a poke that i didn't know what to do so instead of getting yelled at again, i went to smogon for movesets, i don't agree with some of them but meh, whatcha gonna do about


wii4mii, can we get a rating of this team on a the wiiscale

7.5/10

So, Wii4Mii has a word coined in his honor? Neat...

Yep. ss118 first came up with it, and now everyone knows about it.

It's called the Wii-o-Meter.

ILoveCelebi has a slightly less effective contraption called the Bii-o-Meter.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

so, the teams about average

i like wiiscale better

 

[IC3R]

hay gyz i can pwnz you wit ma Flail Sweeping Magikarp.

Magikarp @ Salac Berry
Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
-Splash
-Tackle
-Flail

wat now gyz? u scared 2 face mii?



7.5/10



Yep. ss118 first came up with it, and now everyone knows about it.

It's called the Wii-o-Meter.

ILoveCelebi has a slightly less effective contraption called the Bii-o-Meter.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

THANK. YOU. I needed that, sooo badly...

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

THANK. YOU. I needed that, sooo badly...

Shedinja @ Burn Orb
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SpDef
-Head Smash
-Sandstorm
-Softboiled
-Belly Drum

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

phanpy@focus sash
who cares
who cares about EV spreads
endeavor
ice shard
who cares
who cares

 

[IC3R]

Shedinja @ Burn Orb
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SpDef
-Head Smash
-Sandstorm
-Softboiled
-Belly Drum

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

. . .

phanpy@focus sash
who cares
who cares about EV spreads
endeavor
ice shard
who cares
who cares

Again, . . .

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

. . .



Again, . . .

Well, if you don't need to use my stupidity to your entertainment anymore... Just say so.

Let's keep this on topic...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[MysticKenji]

Shedinja @ Burn Orb
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SpDef
-Head Smash
-Sandstorm
-Softboiled
-Belly Drum

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Best joke set ever. EVER!

On topic: Did you decide who's replacing Gyara, M4F?

 

[IC3R]

Best joke set ever. EVER!

On topic: Did you decide who's replacing Gyara, M4F?

He poofed Gyara for Empo...