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Looking for constructive critique

jacob91

Smash Cadet
Joined
Feb 4, 2005
Messages
39
Hi, thought I'd post this on all the relevant sub-forums.

My cousin and I have been playing melee together consistently ever since the game came out, getting together almost every month for the last ten years to have a game or two or a hundred.

Like everyone else we thought we were great until we went to our first tournament. That was years ago - we learned a lot since, but still we are humbled by the wide distribution of excellent players in the community.

So, after going to our local weeklies a number of times to gauge our improvements, we decided to record a best of 3 set on each legal stage at least once a month and post the footage of our gameplay here.

This month we recorded the footage despite not being primed beforehand. Thus we are both playing at much less than our current potential. These videos still show a fair representation of our current skill, despite them being far from our best matches.

I main falco and he mains luigi. We're looking for critique with our mains and advice on what we do that we shouldn't or what we should do that we don't. We'll try to incorporate the advice given into our game and post follow-up videos for critique at least once a month.

Here's the videos.

Yoshi's Story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHeDZzIA2FY
Fountain of Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvZgk3gKZg
Battlefield - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvalWh9msPc
Final Destination - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP2PfrbrdXc
Dream Land - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJ7PVa2riQ

I know the forums are inundated with critique threads, so I promise to keep both of ours contained in this thread and to update it with new videos as we record them. I appreciate any feedback and criticism that helps us improve our level of gameplay.
 

BossAlbatross

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Messages
2
Location
Oregon, Zimbabwe
Im the best at super smash brothers melee. I main fox, but i will tear you a new hole on your left butt cheek with pichu. Ill be at apex 15 money matching mango and leffen. Come find me, Im known as Matza Crusher 9000. Get rekt noobs, you better not sleep on the kid before 20 minutes.
 

AirFair

Marth tho
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Messages
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Location
Houston, Texas
Im the best at super smash brothers melee. I main fox, but i will tear you a new hole on your left butt cheek with pichu. Ill be at apex 15 money matching mango and leffen. Come find me, Im known as Matza Crusher 9000. Get rekt noobs, you better not sleep on the kid before 20 minutes.
What?? make your own thread dude.
 
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Spak

Hero of Neverwinter
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Messages
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Earth
Im the best at super smash brothers melee. I main fox, but i will tear you a new hole on your left butt cheek with pichu. Ill be at apex 15 money matching mango and leffen. Come find me, Im known as Matza Crusher 9000. Get rekt noobs, you better not sleep on the kid before 20 minutes.
"Im the best at super smash brothers melee".
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Not buying it.
Hi, thought I'd post this on all the relevant sub-forums.

My cousin and I have been playing melee together consistently ever since the game came out, getting together almost every month for the last ten years to have a game or two or a hundred.

Like everyone else we thought we were great until we went to our first tournament. That was years ago - we learned a lot since, but still we are humbled by the wide distribution of excellent players in the community.

So, after going to our local weeklies a number of times to gauge our improvements, we decided to record a best of 3 set on each legal stage at least once a month and post the footage of our gameplay here.

This month we recorded the footage despite not being primed beforehand. Thus we are both playing at much less than our current potential. These videos still show a fair representation of our current skill, despite them being far from our best matches.

I main falco and he mains luigi. We're looking for critique with our mains and advice on what we do that we shouldn't or what we should do that we don't. We'll try to incorporate the advice given into our game and post follow-up videos for critique at least once a month.

Here's the videos.

Yoshi's Story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHeDZzIA2FY
Fountain of Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvZgk3gKZg
Battlefield - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvalWh9msPc
Final Destination - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP2PfrbrdXc
Dream Land - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJ7PVa2riQ

I know the forums are inundated with critique threads, so I promise to keep both of ours contained in this thread and to update it with new videos as we record them. I appreciate any feedback and criticism that helps us improve our level of gameplay.
Something I noticed a lot was you sometimes missed jumping out of shines, rarely used the sweetspotted Side-B recovery, and seemed to be missing a lot of places you could have edgehogged. Sweetspotting the Side-B is decently easy to learn and can be useful to mix up your recovery options, jumping out of shines is vital to comboing or pillaring (although higher-level play has learned to SDI out of pillars, so it will only get you so far), and on a majority of his recoveries where he did his Side-B -> Up-B in order to recover, you could have refreshed ledge invincibility and kept the ledge (or if you have a hard time timing the ledge drop in between his side and up B, you could always refresh invincibility before he comes with his Side-B and roll on-stage to keep the ledge from him.)

Also, try to work on your movement around the stage in general; it seemed like you were trying so hard to wavedash everywhere that your movement was impaired (I saw more rolls and WDs than I saw walking or dashing). Also, Dair approaches can be easily shielded and punished. My last criticism is to avoid trying to deal damage with Side-B or Up-B unless they are being used extremely sparingly as a mix-up as they are highly punishable. I do like that you have well-timed SHLs and your Up-B sweetspot is great. You also have pretty good spacing and I would like to applaud you for your enthusiasm for improvement.
 
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