link up b no landing lag

[z33ke]

Hey I don't know if this is common knowledge but I haven't seen anything about it...

Basically when you are link if you "time" his up b in air right so that you will land of the very edge of a platform/ledge if you are continually moving in that direction and you land right on the edge (where you would normally be on one foot if you stood there) if you keep your momentum throughout the up b in that direction and land on the edge you will slide off and can immediately do follow up moves once you do the little slide... its pretty cool... and i dont even main link by any means haha

 

[Peek~]

Yeah we know

 

[House]

Ledge cancelling / slip-off.

 

[z33ke]

i guess nobody plays link enough to write about that haha

 

[House]

i guess nobody plays link enough to write about that haha

I don't know about the others, but I'm too lazy to write about that.

 

[Dash_Fox]

Hey I don't know if this is common knowledge but I haven't seen anything about it...

Basically when you are link if you "time" his up b in air right so that you will land of the very edge of a platform/ledge if you are continually moving in that direction and you land right on the edge (where you would normally be on one foot if you stood there) if you keep your momentum throughout the up b in that direction and land on the edge you will slide off and can immediately do follow up moves once you do the little slide... its pretty cool... and i dont even main link by any means haha

You mean something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIhwA0JWT0

all characters can slip off the edge to have no lag from up B but its really hard with some. Atleast I think they can it seems logical.

 

[Zantetsu]

It's not to hard on dreamland

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

works good on peach's castle when recovering

 

[AlexBarry]

You mean something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIhwA0JWT0

all characters can slip off the edge to have no lag from up B but its really hard with some. Atleast I think they can it seems logical.

mario, lawigi, jigglypuff (without saying my bad), kirby,pika

 

[Surri-Sama]

i am wondering what are the frames on Falcons Upb landing lag? it doesn't seem like a lot but im just curious

 

[House]

i am wondering what are the frames on Falcons Upb landing lag? it doesn't seem like a lot but im just curious

3 frames if he lands before the entire UpB animation finishes; 16 frames if he does so after the UpB animation has finished (same even if you fast fall).

 

[Zantetsu]

3 frames if he lands before the entire UpB animation finishes; 16 frames if he does so after the UpB animation has finished (same even if you fast fall).

Lol @ me just now finding out that House has been JPleal all this time.

 

[NixxxoN]

Wow true.
The guy's got some very good TAS videos.

 

[killa k]

Lol @ me just now finding out that House has been JPleal all this time.

lmao same here.

 

[AvengerAngel]

Lol same for me

 

[Daedatheus]

Lol @ me just now finding out that House has been JPleal all this time.

Hahaa add me to the list of people just finding this out. I love those TAS videos

 

[Surri-Sama]

3 frames if he lands before the entire UpB animation finishes; 16 frames if he does so after the UpB animation has finished (same even if you fast fall).

cool, thanks a lot...your a lot easier to get info from...as apposed to some other TA data collectors ^^

any way i could get you to help me with something...¿?

me and MattNF have been talking recently about Yoshi and his ability to get out of combos other heavy FFers cant...anything you could do to test and found out why this may or is not actually anything?

 

[House]

cool, thanks a lot...your a lot easier to get info from...as apposed to some other TA data collectors ^^

any way i could get you to help me with something...¿?

me and MattNF have been talking recently about Yoshi and his ability to get out of combos other heavy FFers cant...anything you could do to test and found out why this may or is not actually anything?

I need you to be more especific. Maybe give some examples?

 

[Surri-Sama]

I need you to be more especific. Maybe give some examples?

well, we where specifically talking about Yoshi's ability to escape Falcons basic Fthrow--> Usmash--> 4-5 Uair combos

MattNF says Yoshi has a means of escaping these combos, and i would like to know how and why :o

Remember this is without DI

 

[AvengerAngel]

That's because Yoshi's weight isn't the same as Link's or Falcon's, and *maybe* he gets less stun from Falcon's Uairs, I guess o_O

 

[Surri-Sama]

That's because Yoshi's weight isn't the same as Link's or Falcon's, and *maybe* he gets less stun from Falcon's Uairs, I guess o_O

naw, Yoshi is a heavy Fast faller, same as link and falcon

 

[NixxxoN]

Has this something to do with yoshi's "inmunity" frames during 2nd jump?

 

[AvengerAngel]

naw, Yoshi is a heavy Fast faller, same as link and falcon

No, lol. Yoshi is not as Link and Falcon. He's more similar to DK. They're both heavy chars but they fall slower than Falcon and Link.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Has this something to do with yoshi's "inmunity" frames during 2nd jump?

this is what MattNF is saying, but if you cannot jump due to hitstun, how can you get those frames?

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

this is what MattNF is saying, but if you cannot jump due to hitstun, how can you get those frames?

people mess up the uairs, that's all

 

[Surri-Sama]

people mess up the uairs, that's all

this is what i said, Yoshi cannot escape any actual combos, due to DJC or any other means...if they are ACTUAL combos