Let's discuss character nerfs and buffs.

[JingleJangleJamil]

I want to discuss the nerfs/buffs characters got and how they help or hurt the character. I also want to discuss what you feel should be buffed or nerfed. Sorry, I'm going to go on a little bit of a rant right now, and this is from a post I made in another thread,but I was told to not discuss that there: Alright am I the only one who thinks all of Sheik's nerfs still isn't enough? Maybe I'm just salty from getting bodied by Sheik players who just spam bair after a down throw and end up 0-KOing me at like 40%. Seriously they need to decrease that moves combo potential, because it has too much hitstun and too little knockback making what I mentioned above possible.

 

[Ticker]

Personally, i'm on the opposite side of the nerf or buff than you. After watching some of katar last night, I honestly thought that the matches were boring. For a while, the only exciting character to watch play was Diddy. He had combos and could zone while being aggressive. In my eyes hes where the rest of the cast should be . He allows for more exciting play than the rest of the characters. Instead of nerfing his combo potential and damage, bring everyone else's combo potential up. Make characters die earlier. If the pace of the game stays the way it is, the competitive longevity wont be there.

 

[Deleted member 269706]

I'm more annoyed with Yoshi, Lucario, and ZSS than anyone else...Sheik is still definitely a threat, but not near as bad. Yoshi is like a fast version of Bowser, Lucario is way too heavy, lasting way too long in battle (and getting stronger as he gets more damage), and ZSS got a fine buff if anything in the last update...As if she wasn't good enough. I like what Ticker had to say, but if some of the slower characters like Ike, Ganon, Bowser, Dedede, etc. got much faster, they'd easily be the first choices for a number of people. Some characters NEED buffs, and some need nerfs, that's what it comes down to.

 

[Ticker]

but if some of the slower characters like Ike, Ganon, Bowser, Dedede, etc. got much faster

They don't necessarily need speed buffs, they just need options to work around their speed. For example, if Dedede's gordo was non-reflect-able, it would allow him to force approaches or approach behind his gordo. This would negate the problem he has now, where he is forced to approach with his horrendous ground and horizontal air movement.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Competitive character discussion sticky please discuss in there.