Learning Smash fundamentals in Project M in preparation for SSB4?

[xxMiles]

I want to get better at the game. All help is appreciated.

Basically, I want to learn Marth. I find it difficult to pull off his side B move without messing up for some reason. Is that key to getting good with Marth?

Also, is practicing with CPU's in PM going to help also? How long should I attempt to play for each day? 30 minutes to an hour?

Thanks! Also, any tips for the Dancing Blade (I think that's what Marth's side-B is called?) would be appreciated.

 

[Tryst]

Basically, I want to learn Marth.

Woo! Good choice!

I find it difficult to pull off his side B move without messing up for some reason. Is that key to getting good with Marth?

In some situations it can be very helpful, but I'd say it depends on how high you wanna go in competitive play if you want to master it, Like most other things.

Also, is practicing with CPU's in PM going to help also? How long should I attempt to play for each day? 30 minutes to an hour?

Practicing with computers will not help unless you are new to smash. After that then it is considered bad to play against computers by most people because of the ammount of exploits and how they don't learn. I also heard that they are okay to practice combos on, but I am not sure about that. I would strongly reccomend finding players close to you that play, or trying to convert some friends to Project M-ism. As for time, I'd say if you have people to play with (Especially try to go against people better than you.) just play as long as you and them want to play. The longer the better! :D

Thanks! Also, any tips for the Dancing Blade (I think that's what Marth's side-B is called?) would be appreciated.

Your welcome! For Dancing Blade all I can say is practice, practice, practice. Oh, and don't hit the buttons too fast. I used to do that and that used to be my main mistake. c: Oh and yes that is the name of Marth's side Special. If you need anythnig else I'd be happy to help!

[EDIT:] Oh yeah, about the title, learning the fundementals of Project M (SFFLing, Wavedashing, etc.) won't nessisarily help you in Smash 4. It is already confirmed that they don't have Melee air dodge and they might not have L-Cancelling. (Although if they did, that'd be epic.)

 

[Star ☆]

While I think Project M will be incredibly different than Smash 4, it might be worth learning certain matchups and ways to recover with returning characters as this will possibly still be relevant. Other things like advanced techniques and edgeguarding will change drastically with the new mechanics.

 

[xxMiles]

Woo! Good choice!



In some situations it can be very helpful, but I'd say it depends on how high you wanna go in competitive play if you want to master it, Like most other things.



Practicing with computers will not help unless you are new to smash. After that then it is considered bad to play against computers by most people because of the ammount of exploits and how they don't learn. I also heard that they are okay to practice combos on, but I am not sure about that. I would strongly reccomend finding players close to you that play, or trying to convert some friends to Project M-ism. As for time, I'd say if you have people to play with (Especially try to go against people better than you.) just play as long as you and them want to play. The longer the better! :D



Your welcome! For Dancing Blade all I can say is practice, practice, practice. Oh, and don't hit the buttons too fast. I used to do that and that used to be my main mistake. c: Oh and yes that is the name of Marth's side Special. If you need anythnig else I'd be happy to help!

[EDIT:] Oh yeah, about the title, learning the fundementals of Project M (SFFLing, Wavedashing, etc.) won't nessisarily help you in Smash 4. It is already confirmed that they don't have Melee air dodge and they might not have L-Cancelling. (Although if they did, that'd be epic.)

Thanks to you and other person that commented. Hmm, I just wanna improve. Don't think I wanna be a top level pro or anything yet. And sadly, I only have two people to play Project M with, and they don't come over often. So that's kinda why I asked about fighting computers. So I guess I'll have to convert friends over to Project M?

Also, by fundamentals, I was referring to basic stuff like when to punish, roll, attack, so on and so forth.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

You can learn basic fighting game fundamentals in any game. Just pick one you like, get a good grasp on it and those things will transfer over.

 

[Tryst]

Thanks to you and other person that commented. Hmm, I just wanna improve. Don't think I wanna be a top level pro or anything yet. And sadly, I only have two people to play Project M with, and they don't come over often. So that's kinda why I asked about fighting computers. So I guess I'll have to convert friends over to Project M?

Also, by fundamentals, I was referring to basic stuff like when to punish, roll, attack, so on and so forth.

Yush, we need moar players. c:

Oh yeh! Those fundamentals will definitely help.

 

[Celestis]

Playing Brawl I think would be better suited to preparing or Smash 4. Smash 4 looks like a heavier Brawl.

So I guess I'll have to convert friends over to Project M?
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Convert? They should not even question playing PM! =P
A lot of casual players can be iffy about it. I know plenty myself. =/

 

[G13_Flux]

well, i can tell you that if youre having trouble doing marths side b, you probably have a long road of fundamentals you need to learn. but either way, the important ones to focus on IMO are these

1.) reading your opponent and being able to predict their movements, attacks, recoveries based on their habbits and how smart you believe them to be.

2.) a knowledge of your options as well as your opponents options. This ties in to all the available movement options to either you (this is something that is going to be far different in smash 4). you have to understand all the best choices that you have in a given situation, which one will beat out the most/most likely option that your opponent will perform.

3.) movement. in PM you need to understand how things like WDing, DDing, and pivots allow your opponent to approach and attack, as well as defend. in smash 4, you will have to develop a good knowledge of all the movement options you posess, and when those options allow you to attack (in smash 4, maybe the only option you have out of a run will be to dash attack or jump, whereas in PM, you can attack, jump, WD back, shield, or crouch). bottom line, understand how increased movment options opens up attack and defend options.

4.) patience

5.) dealing with pressure