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L-Canceling Questions

Jaax

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So I started playing competitive Melee not long ago and I have a couple of questions about L-Canceling.
1. Do you L cancel as soon as you hit the ground or just after the move you want to L-Cancel?
2. What are some ways to practice L-Canceling?
I'd really appreciate it if you answered, thanks alot!!!
 

gmBottles

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L-cancelling is largely just muscle memory once you get it down. You L cancel before you hit the ground, don't know the specific frames but you can look it up, it's somewhere. Best way to practice it is to start making an effort to L cancel during matches.
 

Jaax

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So you L cancel after the move is executed and the animation is done?
and are there any indications (apart from you being able to do another move straight away) that you've L-Canceled correctly?
 

anikom15

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I believe you must press L within 7 frames of hitting the ground, or about a tenth of a second. It's much harder to do than in Smash 64.
 

Shaq

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You do it just before you hit da ground G. Try it on some easy obvious **** like Link's dair so you can see when you got it right and when you supposed to press it, then try it on harder moves.

You gonna main Gdubs tho right?
 
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ECHOnce

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So you L cancel after the move is executed and the animation is done?
and are there any indications (apart from you being able to do another move straight away) that you've L-Canceled correctly?
As others have said, you press L, R, or Z within 7 frames before touching the ground, in order to cancel landing lag incurred from an ongoing aerial move. Visually, you'll be midway through an aerial (say...Marth is halfway through his F-air slash), and then it will be interrupted once you touch the ground. In the standard version of Melee, there are no other visual indications beside shorter landing lag and maybe the move getting interrupted if you L-canceled it early in the animation.

If you would like a visual indication to practice L-canceling until it becomes second nature for you, I would suggest trying out either 20XX or PM. 20XX makes your character flash red for every non-L-canceled aerial that lands before finishing. PM takes the opposite route, and makes your character flash white for every successful L-cancel. PM 3.5 also tracks your L-cancel success rate per match, which can be seen in the Results Screen stats under the kills/deaths (or somewhere else near the top iirc)
 
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tauKhan

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Since you are new player, I recommend you to l-cancel with a light input on either of the shoulder buttons or z. That way it will not mess up with your techs.

Practice l-canceling by doing a lot of aerials from different positions. When you hit somebody, there's going to be hitlag frames which change the timing on which you hit the ground, so you must learn to both l-cancel hits and whiffs. Hitlag is the same for you regardless of if you hit a character, shield, shy guy etc. The stronger the aerial, the longer the hitlag is.

Practice l-canceling on visual cue, because then hitlag and different jump heights etc don't mess you up. When you practice, for short periods at a time concentrate only on getting the l-cancel. Learn also to act asap out of your characters l-canceled moves, because then you can take full advantage of the cancel and you will also quickly learn when you succeeded. I suggest at first try to jab out of the l-canceled aerial asap.

L-cancelling is largely just muscle memory once you get it down. You L cancel before you hit the ground, don't know the specific frames but you can look it up, it's somewhere. Best way to practice it is to start making an effort to L cancel during matches.
One should really try to avoid l-canceling on purely muscle memory, because it won't work when circumstances change, like hitlag, or different aerial timings. Don't worry, it will become automatic even though you don't do it on solely muscle memory.
 

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It does. You can set it to flash white when correct and red when failed. Achilles says he will add a code to flash red when it's not a light press too.
 
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