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L-canceling practice?

The mat master

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I have been practicing and l-canceling seems to be the thing that gives me the most trouble. Looking at the after match stats I usually range from 40-50% playing as random characters against random cpus trying to get this technique mastered. I am using 20XX to not allow l-cancel on a hard press to get into a good habit. Is this a good way to practice l-canceling? Is this good progress for a pretty new competitive player? Also, how often do top players miss an l-cancel, if ever?
 

cornandbeans

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In the training options of the 20XX debug menu, you can turn on color cues to see whether you've executed a successful L cancel or not. White being successful, red being unsuccessful. This will help you see how consistent you are with L canceling. I'm pretty sure top players rarely ever miss an L-Cancel because how often they do it. I have been playing competitively for about two years now and I rarely miss my l-cancels, even with characters I do not play as. If you're having trouble executing l-cancels facing CPU opponents,try and do it in training mode or with a controller plugged in, do not use it in play until you are consistent with it, and then slowly bring it into play.

The method of training you're using (not allowing l-canceling on hard press) I personally don't think is required, because I mostly hard press to l-cancel and usually get it every time, and I learned through the vanilla version of the game. But I could imagine it would be beneficial, it would be quicker to lightly press the L button as opposed to hard pressing it, but not enough to effect your play.

Once you have the technique down, it is really easy to do. :)
 

The mat master

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In the training options of the 20XX debug menu, you can turn on color cues to see whether you've executed a successful L cancel or not. White being successful, red being unsuccessful. This will help you see how consistent you are with L canceling. I'm pretty sure top players rarely ever miss an L-Cancel because how often they do it. I have been playing competitively for about two years now and I rarely miss my l-cancels, even with characters I do not play as. If you're having trouble executing l-cancels facing CPU opponents,try and do it in training mode or with a controller plugged in, do not use it in play until you are consistent with it, and then slowly bring it into play.

The method of training you're using (not allowing l-canceling on hard press) I personally don't think is required, because I mostly hard press to l-cancel and usually get it every time, and I learned through the vanilla version of the game. But I could imagine it would be beneficial, it would be quicker to lightly press the L button as opposed to hard pressing it, but not enough to effect your play.

Once you have the technique down, it is really easy to do. :)
Okay thanks for the advice! It sounds like it will just come with time. I was only worried because I felt I progressed much faster learning wavedashing. Although I read somewhere that l-canceling with a hard press actually has an effect on the game where you can't tech for 60 frames or something like that.
 

Waldoring

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If you ever input a hard l/r press, you will tech if possible in the next 20 frames and then will not be able to tech for 40 after that. As such, it's universally better to l-cancel with only an analog press. Other than teching, hard presses can lead to unintended airdodges if you accidentally edge cancel something.

Alternating between characters with a lot of hitstun on their aerials (like Ganon) and those with very little (like Fox) can be very helpful when practicing, though getting consistent with your main may be a priority.
 

Mr Snak3_

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If you don't use the flash on l cancel stuff try using link, his uair and dair have lots of lag so it's noticeable when you do it right
 
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