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l-canceling and sheik

Beamer

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When I short hop and immediately push the c-stick in sideways direction to do fair, and then fast fall, since sheik seems to have a relatively high hop, my sheik completes the attack animation of fair before landing. So, does that mean that if I time it in that way, I do not need to l-cancel since the attack animation is alread over?

Also, the l-canel only applies if the attack animation is still going on as you land, right? Because I've tried to do it after the animation is over, and I could see no difference in recovery speed, whereas I could definitely tell the faster recovery if the attack animation was during the landing...
 

ArcNatural

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L-canceling will only take affect if the aerial animation isn't completed when you hit the ground.
 

Beamer

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So am I correct in saying that for sheik, when doing a shffled aerial, you only need to l-cancel your dair, uair, and nair? (bair and fair gets completed before the landing?)
 

Angrylobster

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So am I correct in saying that for sheik, when doing a shffled aerial, you only need to l-cancel your dair, uair, and nair? (bair and fair gets completed before the landing?)
Not always. The step you're missing is fast falling. Make sure you fast fall your aerials as well, this will make it so you have to L cancel your fairs and bairs, but you can do them much lower to the ground this way.
 

Beamer

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well I do always fast fall, but even if I do fast fall, the attack animation is complete for fair and bair. But I think I understand your point though, since sometimes one might want to time a shffled fair or bair slightly after hopping so that the attack animation is still going on at the ground... thank you guys for your answers
 

hhliveson

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you have to l-cancel whenever you fast fall period. even when the attack is over, the recovery animation of a fast fall is different from a regular fall.
 

Angrylobster

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well I do always fast fall, but even if I do fast fall, the attack animation is complete for fair and bair. But I think I understand your point though, since sometimes one might want to time a shffled fair or bair slightly after hopping so that the attack animation is still going on at the ground... thank you guys for your answers
yeah, you get the point I think. You mostly just have to l-cancel the fair if you wanna hit someone at the very end of your shffl, but if you're doing it at the beginning of your jump you dont have to worry about it
 
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