Kyobreck
Smash Rookie
Hi my name's Kyobreck! I've been playing Smash for about 3 months now (I've played since 64 but I'm much more into it now) and I've been wanting to improve forever so I figure the best way to do that is through a training journal especially from a guide here, http://smashboards.com/threads/drastic-improvement.311129/, however to help with improvement I could sort of do a training journal here on the boards. My plan is to update as frequently as possible with notes on my replays and videos I watch as well as articles I read/ have read, (stuff like domination 101 and the footsies handbook)
I'm excited to see the kind of response this thread gets, if any, positive or negative.
For now I only really play against my brother who I plan to be able to crush eventuall, then move into for glory later even thought I hate playing with lag. Most of the videos will be of me vs. cpu or my brother at this point. I don't have any kind of a capture card for my wii u so for now videos will be
*I'm not sure if this is the board to post something like this or if something like this has been posted before here but I figure since I'm starting out mainly playing smash 4 (Though I want to move into PM and melee some day in the future)
so if it's not well, sorry lol*
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12/29/14 I played Marth only all day, thinking about maining him and playing him exclusively for a while.
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Note:These games are not in chronological order they just took place randomly due to my screwup in filming these things. Future updates should be chronologically also these aren't the only matches overall I believe I had 25 replays from today and some matches weren't even put into replay.*
Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3wHxsfK_w
-At beginning of match maybe I shouldn't have approached? Thought it didn't really end badly for me due to shield there probably was a better option or I could have maybe walked in and out of links Fsmash and punished.
-Need to stop down airing into ground to much landing lag, fast fall Uair seems to be a much better option but harder to pull off, or maybe a fastfall into downtilt, parry, or side tilt. I don't know if T link's Fsmash can out range those.
-@ 0:21 again a good time for fast fall Uair. I need to just go into training mode and practice that constantly for like 20 minutes.
-Have to predict and react to those link down airs. Due to the pushaway on the ground though I need to approach directly from above. Again a fast fall up air, but eventuall that will get to predictable if I do it in all the situations it looks good.What else could I do? Does air dodge landing lag stop pushaway and is it short enough that I could get something off?
-When Tlink throws boomerang straight at a certain distance jump and then immediate air dodge is to slow causing me to end up having landing lag easily punished. Gotta be a better option. But Tlink always up smashes. Maybe jumping the double jumping to bait out the up smash and then punish.
-When are dash attacks useful on Marth?
-Could I react fast enough to link pulling out a bow/bomb/boomerang to succesfully approach and punish? I think with enough practice I could.
-Got the stock @ 2:05 because Link used an arial that removed the option to air dodge allowing me to get a tipper Fsmash off. What lead up to it though and was there a better option for Tlink?
-Lost Stock @ 2:13 when I jumped into boomerang Link was able to Nair me off stage, shoulda air dodged if I could or just not got hit by the boomerang.
-@ 2:22 How could I have spaced better on that Fsmash? Maybe a perfect pivot would have been useful. Still need to practice that. Everyone says it's hard but I think with enough dedication and can be done effortlessly like wavedashing.
-@ 2:43 Got stock because Tlink threw out and arrow into Fsmash allowing me to get the arial off and lead into an up smash.
-How to punish rolls? I never got that am I jsut not reading them or reacting to them fast enough?
-@3:38 Why run in there was no room to punish after that jump to much lag.
-@3:47 Lost stock due to a silly Down air land lag, Tlink got grab into up throw and Nair killing me.
-How can I get Tlink to approach me first? If I don't all he's going to do is spam projectiles? Do I just ahve to approach him in a way where I don't get hurt? Reacting fast enough though might work because he has no options while in his animations.
-@4:14 Lost stock and game, silly up B Don't know why I did it lol.
Why did I lose: Up B at end I might have had that game in the bag however there is a lot here that can be improved upon and it is not the SOLE reason I lose just the most apparent.
Game 2(Same Replay as Game 1):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NizC4UBmk
-Again approaching first into a shield
-When Tlink throws his boomerang into the ground so it goes up the player has a habit of jumping I should be punishing this looking back and I believe in one game I catch onto it but I choke and never pull off a good punish and just end up hurting myself somehow,
-@:45 EASIEST PUNISH ON THAT FSMASH but I ran away.
-Dash attacked on a Down B could have done something else dash attack didn't hit because I suck and it put me in a bad position
-@2:07 Got the stock because TLink Naired into my Fsmash. Seemed to be after a projectile throw like last video. Maybe it's a habit?
-After stock Tlink immediatly pulls off the same stunt, this time I fall for it though and jump into the boomerang and get naired. Maybe it's just an impulsive thing, if Tlink still does this tomorrow I definitly need to punish it.
-@ 2:25 Tlink jumped out of hitstun after my sour Fsmash, then went straight into an arial. Maybe he thought it was unexpected. I need to see if He does that tomorrow if it's a behavior he does.
-Does crouching when landing reduce landing lag?
-(wow holy cow I'm an idiot so these first two are literally the same replay... Oh well learning from the same video doesn't hurt I guess.)
Game 3:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VfTDMvZOx0
-When Diddy throws bananas in the air I can easily catch him out on that untill he starts mixing it up and not going for the bananas but attacking me instead.
-@ 0:48 easy punish on that tilt.
-Can shield Breaker be used to punish rolls?
-@1:33 Lost stock due to slippage on the troll banana peel. Diddy dash attacked and hit me off stage with an arial. Could I have gotten out of this with a nair or air dodge, or was the hitstun to much?
-@1:40 Hmmm maybe I can use what I did there in the future of just falling off the ledge and jumping back on to catch someone coming from above stage?
-@2:16 Got stock because Diddy reacted way to late. Able to get a sour Fsmash on him.
-@2:42 Lost stock to a silly SD. R.I.P
-@3:50 Lost stock after trying to get on stage Diddy Was able to smash me off it.
Game 4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxagRJ17pw
Game 4 is VS. A cpu (I hate those things) and I'm to tired to write notes for this write now so I'm going to do that tomorrow.
Game 5:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2qgMrgpAY
-Sometimes I come out of shield way to early I need to stop doing that I need to recognize the opponents action and it's time and react accordingly with unshielding.
-@0:20 Lost to SD. ( I need to stop doing those for real) The arrow also gimped me I think which stopped me from doing a second jump which might have had a part in it. I need to get good at air dodging those.
-@0:25 or something the sour Fairpushed link far enough to Fsmash him. Maybe I can use that in the future.
-@030 It seemed to work again!
-I need to see if I can figure out some kind of way to test what percents work with Dair spke into an up Smash tipper.
-@1:10 Lost because I mispredicted instead of going for a forward smash I did an up smash which allowed me to get fsmashed. I need to watch for ledge habits more.
-@1:30 Got the stock because I executed that up smash in a good way I guess. To be honest sometimes I can do that and sometimes I can't? Why though?
-Dsmash seems to cover some landing options from Tlink. Hmmmm.
-@2:20 Got the stock due to SD?
Ending notes: That's it for now I had a lot more play time today. Hopefully tomorrows uploads will be chronological and I'll do it earlier so I can be more awake to take better notes.
I'm excited to see the kind of response this thread gets, if any, positive or negative.
For now I only really play against my brother who I plan to be able to crush eventuall, then move into for glory later even thought I hate playing with lag. Most of the videos will be of me vs. cpu or my brother at this point. I don't have any kind of a capture card for my wii u so for now videos will be
*I'm not sure if this is the board to post something like this or if something like this has been posted before here but I figure since I'm starting out mainly playing smash 4 (Though I want to move into PM and melee some day in the future)
so if it's not well, sorry lol*
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12/29/14 I played Marth only all day, thinking about maining him and playing him exclusively for a while.
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Note:These games are not in chronological order they just took place randomly due to my screwup in filming these things. Future updates should be chronologically also these aren't the only matches overall I believe I had 25 replays from today and some matches weren't even put into replay.*
Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3wHxsfK_w
-At beginning of match maybe I shouldn't have approached? Thought it didn't really end badly for me due to shield there probably was a better option or I could have maybe walked in and out of links Fsmash and punished.
-Need to stop down airing into ground to much landing lag, fast fall Uair seems to be a much better option but harder to pull off, or maybe a fastfall into downtilt, parry, or side tilt. I don't know if T link's Fsmash can out range those.
-@ 0:21 again a good time for fast fall Uair. I need to just go into training mode and practice that constantly for like 20 minutes.
-Have to predict and react to those link down airs. Due to the pushaway on the ground though I need to approach directly from above. Again a fast fall up air, but eventuall that will get to predictable if I do it in all the situations it looks good.What else could I do? Does air dodge landing lag stop pushaway and is it short enough that I could get something off?
-When Tlink throws boomerang straight at a certain distance jump and then immediate air dodge is to slow causing me to end up having landing lag easily punished. Gotta be a better option. But Tlink always up smashes. Maybe jumping the double jumping to bait out the up smash and then punish.
-When are dash attacks useful on Marth?
-Could I react fast enough to link pulling out a bow/bomb/boomerang to succesfully approach and punish? I think with enough practice I could.
-Got the stock @ 2:05 because Link used an arial that removed the option to air dodge allowing me to get a tipper Fsmash off. What lead up to it though and was there a better option for Tlink?
-Lost Stock @ 2:13 when I jumped into boomerang Link was able to Nair me off stage, shoulda air dodged if I could or just not got hit by the boomerang.
-@ 2:22 How could I have spaced better on that Fsmash? Maybe a perfect pivot would have been useful. Still need to practice that. Everyone says it's hard but I think with enough dedication and can be done effortlessly like wavedashing.
-@ 2:43 Got stock because Tlink threw out and arrow into Fsmash allowing me to get the arial off and lead into an up smash.
-How to punish rolls? I never got that am I jsut not reading them or reacting to them fast enough?
-@3:38 Why run in there was no room to punish after that jump to much lag.
-@3:47 Lost stock due to a silly Down air land lag, Tlink got grab into up throw and Nair killing me.
-How can I get Tlink to approach me first? If I don't all he's going to do is spam projectiles? Do I just ahve to approach him in a way where I don't get hurt? Reacting fast enough though might work because he has no options while in his animations.
-@4:14 Lost stock and game, silly up B Don't know why I did it lol.
Why did I lose: Up B at end I might have had that game in the bag however there is a lot here that can be improved upon and it is not the SOLE reason I lose just the most apparent.
Game 2(Same Replay as Game 1):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NizC4UBmk
-Again approaching first into a shield
-When Tlink throws his boomerang into the ground so it goes up the player has a habit of jumping I should be punishing this looking back and I believe in one game I catch onto it but I choke and never pull off a good punish and just end up hurting myself somehow,
-@:45 EASIEST PUNISH ON THAT FSMASH but I ran away.
-Dash attacked on a Down B could have done something else dash attack didn't hit because I suck and it put me in a bad position
-@2:07 Got the stock because TLink Naired into my Fsmash. Seemed to be after a projectile throw like last video. Maybe it's a habit?
-After stock Tlink immediatly pulls off the same stunt, this time I fall for it though and jump into the boomerang and get naired. Maybe it's just an impulsive thing, if Tlink still does this tomorrow I definitly need to punish it.
-@ 2:25 Tlink jumped out of hitstun after my sour Fsmash, then went straight into an arial. Maybe he thought it was unexpected. I need to see if He does that tomorrow if it's a behavior he does.
-Does crouching when landing reduce landing lag?
-(wow holy cow I'm an idiot so these first two are literally the same replay... Oh well learning from the same video doesn't hurt I guess.)
Game 3:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VfTDMvZOx0
-When Diddy throws bananas in the air I can easily catch him out on that untill he starts mixing it up and not going for the bananas but attacking me instead.
-@ 0:48 easy punish on that tilt.
-Can shield Breaker be used to punish rolls?
-@1:33 Lost stock due to slippage on the troll banana peel. Diddy dash attacked and hit me off stage with an arial. Could I have gotten out of this with a nair or air dodge, or was the hitstun to much?
-@1:40 Hmmm maybe I can use what I did there in the future of just falling off the ledge and jumping back on to catch someone coming from above stage?
-@2:16 Got stock because Diddy reacted way to late. Able to get a sour Fsmash on him.
-@2:42 Lost stock to a silly SD. R.I.P
-@3:50 Lost stock after trying to get on stage Diddy Was able to smash me off it.
Game 4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxagRJ17pw
Game 4 is VS. A cpu (I hate those things) and I'm to tired to write notes for this write now so I'm going to do that tomorrow.
Game 5:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2qgMrgpAY
-Sometimes I come out of shield way to early I need to stop doing that I need to recognize the opponents action and it's time and react accordingly with unshielding.
-@0:20 Lost to SD. ( I need to stop doing those for real) The arrow also gimped me I think which stopped me from doing a second jump which might have had a part in it. I need to get good at air dodging those.
-@0:25 or something the sour Fairpushed link far enough to Fsmash him. Maybe I can use that in the future.
-@030 It seemed to work again!
-I need to see if I can figure out some kind of way to test what percents work with Dair spke into an up Smash tipper.
-@1:10 Lost because I mispredicted instead of going for a forward smash I did an up smash which allowed me to get fsmashed. I need to watch for ledge habits more.
-@1:30 Got the stock because I executed that up smash in a good way I guess. To be honest sometimes I can do that and sometimes I can't? Why though?
-Dsmash seems to cover some landing options from Tlink. Hmmmm.
-@2:20 Got the stock due to SD?
Ending notes: That's it for now I had a lot more play time today. Hopefully tomorrows uploads will be chronological and I'll do it earlier so I can be more awake to take better notes.
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