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Known, missing and returning updates! Theory included :P

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aleps

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Well, I made this thread to show a theory I created and which updates are likely to appear in the DOJO. First the ones we already know about because of the E for All or other sources:

Final Smashes
-Zero Suit Samus
-Sonic

Movesets
-Pikachu
-Samus
-Bowser
-Yoshi
-Peach
-DK

Items
-The spike-ball thing
-The thing that is alike to Sonic's Spring Jump

Assist Trophies
-Drill Dozer
-Hammer Bros.
-Nintendog
-Metroid
-Advanced Wars

Pokemon
-Torchic
-Gardevoir
-Kyogre
-Latio/Latias

SSE
-Kirby & Peach's video
-Pit & Mario' video

Now the ones that are missing, that we know about their existance but any details:

Final Smashes
-Snake
-Zelda

Movesets
-Kirby
-Zelda
-Ice Climbers

Stages
-Mario Circuit
-Stage (probably Luigi's Mansion) from the Fall video where Squirtle appears.

Items
-Soccer ball
-Clock

SSE
-Link & Yoshi's video
-Samus's video

And finally, the updates that are obvious and the ones returning from Melee:

Game Modes:
-Multi-man Melee Brawl
-All-star Mode
-Stock/Time/Bonus/Coin VS match


They are 35, lets say around 25-35 as Sakurai may be kind enough to give us new information. We have 42 days left in which we get updates. So, we may get 7-17 new updates until the game release. This is just a theory, but as we have been getting filler stuff in the DOJO, this may happen. There will be more 5-10 more, cause I'm not counting double updates.

If someone knows about another item, stage or whatever that was revealed in the E for All or in any other place, tell me so I can add it. I'll modify the thread if some of this updates are shown.
 
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Lightning Ice

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Nice job organizing all of them here. I hope that we don't get the movesets for the demo characters though. Although I'm sure it will happen...
 
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I think the only veteran who would get news on moves is Zelda. I mean, for Mario, they only had his new down+B, because it's new. Link's moves functioned differently. MAYBE one for Bowser with his new side+B, but everyone else, as far as I've heard, is essentially the same as they were in Melee.
 
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CodeBlack

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I wouldn't put the stuff from Melee on this list, as there's no real evidence that they are returning, though I hope Multi-Man returns. I think Coin/Stock and stuff was revealed with the Special Melee update, not sure.

And yes. Puffs, this isn't a list of speculated characters, it's a list of things we know exist but aren't on the Dojo yet, such as Zelda's Final Smash, which must exist (given that all characters have final smashes, as far as we have been told).

On that note, as we know, or, more accurately, assume, that all characters will have stage representation, I think that A Sonic Stage (without a known setting) needs to be on this list.
 
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amost

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that one video that shows clips of characters doing random things has squirtle doing his move to the background of a stage that doesn't look like any other. take a look for yourself.
 
Chaosblade77

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Matt2358 said:
what about that one stage with the purple background and the dead tree. (luigis mansion?)It showed it for a sec on the fall conference video.
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Ok, it's not the AC stage at night. No confirmed stages have a background that looks like that and I cannot think of any Melee stages that did either, and I am too lazy to get the disk out.

It could also be SSE, there could be tons of speculation behind that picture.
 
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aleps

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KingKraken said:
I hope there are at least some differences between the vet's movesets. And I'm not to sure if Raikuaza is a boss.
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You're right, I will eliminate Rikuaza from the list as it isn't really probable he is a boss.

CodeBlack said:
I wouldn't put the stuff from Melee on this list, as there's no real evidence that they are returning, though I hope Multi-Man returns. I think Coin/Stock and stuff was revealed with the Special Melee update, not sure.

And yes. Puffs, this isn't a list of speculated characters, it's a list of things we know exist but aren't on the Dojo yet, such as Zelda's Final Smash, which must exist (given that all characters have final smashes, as far as we have been told).

On that note, as we know, or, more accurately, assume, that all characters will have stage representation, I think that A Sonic Stage (without a known setting) needs to be on this list.
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The Coin match wasn't shown in the Special Brawl update, and with the stage topic, I didn't include it cause it would be a new update.

Garuda said:
I think the only veteran who would get news on moves is Zelda. I mean, for Mario, they only had his new down+B, because it's new. Link's moves functioned differently. MAYBE one for Bowser with his new side+B, but everyone else, as far as I've heard, is essentially the same as they were in Melee.
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That's why I left a margin of error :p And in that case, Kirby's moveset should be revealed too as his neutral B may be upgraded. We also got Fox moves, so that makes me think there will be updates of the other characters moves (Maybe not all of them but some).
 
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I don't think he is going to have an update for each of those things. But that's just my opinion.
 
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Puffs

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Shouldn't have multi-man brawl on there if you're not gonna put down Krystal.
 
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Puffs said:
Shouldn't have multi-man brawl on there if you're not gonna put down Krystal.
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How is Krystal going to be in the game? We know she is in due to the VA leak, but how is she in? She could be a background character for all we know that gets no attention.

At least Multiman Brawl is a game mode that would be incredibly surprising not to see in.
 
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Good. But You do know that nobody that has the same moveset will have an update, and that's anyone who has already had a Final Smash, too.
 
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Um it said 42 days.. for updates but if we count the Japanese release date that means taking out weekends would actually make it less updates till everything gets revealed. about 30, although I could be wrong...

I know the site will also update after brawl is released but after january 24th nearly everything will be revealed before our release.
 
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And I would think there will be more online/Wi-Fi updates at least once a week...
 
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amost

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GreatClayMonkey said:
wait whats link and yoshi's video and whats samus' video?
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When SSE was first shown, there were some still screenshots of videos (these are on the dojo, you can find them there), and some of those vid screenshots had link/yoshi, and there were more with samus
 
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CHAOSDRAGON88

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DeuceBlade said:
Um it said 42 days.. for updates but if we count the Japanese release date that means taking out weekends would actually make it less updates till everything gets revealed. about 30, although I could be wrong...

I know the site will also update after brawl is released but after january 24th nearly everything will be revealed before our release.
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I came to the same conclusion. Its sad and annoying.
 
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