Kirby Swallows Lucas, then what?

[GamerGuy09]

How will that work?

 

[Ogopogo]

Kirby/Lucas and Kirby/Ivy confirmed for S-tier in Teams

 

[Doq]

Actually I think if Kirby eats Lucas = Ice
and Kirby eats Ivy = Leaf

Because Warchamp7 said (in the AMA) there were generic copy abilities.

 

[Sobreviviente]

Whats the problem with solar beam? im so hyped about it :'''(

 

[BackwardCap]

Amped-Up smash attacks and Healing + Solar Beam.

 

[Time/SpaceMage]

Actually I think if Kirby eats Lucas = Ice
and Kirby eats Ivy = Leaf

Because Warchamp7 said (in the AMA) there were generic copy abilities.

Please screenshot that, because I read through most of that AMA once and just now expanded the comments while searching for "Kirby" and didn't see that mentioned anywhere. That's kind of a big deal.

 

[Doq]

Please screenshot that, because I read through most of that AMA once and just now expanded the comments while searching for "Kirby" and didn't see that mentioned anywhere. That's kind of a big deal.

Actually after rereading the comment he didn't know what he was talking about.

 

[Time/SpaceMage]

Actually after rereading the comment he didn't know what he was talking about.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Glad I asked... *sweatdrop*

 

[Celestis]

I don't think taking Solar beam is that big of a deal. Kirby has no bulb moves to help charge the move as he attacks, so it would only be threw the slow charging processes. Plus Kirby would would have to not die or get it knocked out of him. Ivy keeps it when she dies.

I think Lucas' is still a question though..

 

[NameChange]

He holds it to charge then when he finishes he lets out a burst of energy

That's my two cents

 

[Eisen]

then what?

Profit.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Profit.

Totally off topic but, dude are in the SC melee/ SC super smash community page on FB 0.0?

 

[Eisen]

I wasn't aware, but I just requested to join. Simpsonville, eh? Used to go there regularly.

 

[GeZ]

I've talked to one of the devs about this, as I had the same question. If they can give Kirby some sort of functional version of the characters neutral B's, they will. Barring that, they'll give Kirby one of the characters other moves, I.E. razor leaf/ Lucas' Ice missile.

 

[esoterics]

I've talked to one of the devs about this, as I had the same question. If they can give Kirby some sort of functional version of the characters neutral B's, they will. Barring that, they'll give Kirby one of the characters other moves, I.E. razor leaf/ Lucas' Ice missile.

Would that imply he'd throw Woddle Dees rather than have the swallowception scenario where Kirby inhales D3 so he can inhale D3 with the power he got from D3 with a hat on from D3 which he got from swallowing D3? That always annoyed me.

 

[Banjodorf]

Oh man I hope that's how it turns out. Kirbucas for God tier. *hype*

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

Would that imply he'd throw Woddle Dees rather than have the swallowception scenario where Kirby inhales D3 so he can inhale D3 with the power he got from D3 with a hat on from D3 which he got from swallowing D3? That always annoyed me.

Same thing with wario

 

[Kally Wally]

Wario's Bite is at least functionally different from Inhale.

 

[esoterics]

Same thing with wario

Well, at least Wario's chomp has different properties rather than downgrading the move Kirby already had.

EDIT: I got ninja'd by Kally

 

[guedes the brawler]

Well, at least Wario's chomp has different properties rather than downgrading the move Kirby already had.

EDIT: I got ninja'd by Kally

and talking about that, does anyone know if Wario!Kirby's hat to the Yellow one?

 

[Hao the Champion]

I think it should get no adverse affect since absorbing Ivysaur and Lucas run their specials differently. Like trying to absorb another Kirby, no affect. People shouldn't really get too hung up on the copy ability since it's not that useful in competitive play. Looking forward to those sweet aerial buffs and Cutter Dash though.

 

[Kally Wally]

People shouldn't really get too hung up on the copy ability since it's not that useful in competitive play.

That's exactly the kind of 'competitive > casual' sentiment that has, historically, made competitive Smash seem like a ****ty community.

 

[B.W.]

I used Kirby's copy ability whenever I did friendlies with him in Melee. Whether or not is useful depends on what ability you are getting as well as how well it meshes with Kirby's moveset... And also how useful it is in the neutral vs the character that had it originally.

Like Falco's lasers are actually pretty cool on Kirby, as are Doc's pills. Samus' blast, DK's punch, etc.

The fact that Kirby is getting a more viable moveset all around will open up a little more for his copy abilities.

Also I'm sure he will get Solarbeam and Offense-Up. Solarbeam will probably be kinda meh. OU is hype.

 

[DrinkingFood]

Falco's lasers are ****ing awesome on kirby, considering he gets SHDLs that have stun

Probably any projectile on kirby will be good, considering he doesn't have a (decent) one of his own. Tink's arrows will most likely be able to be repeatedly double-jump'd->neutral b, for constant, safe spamming from the air. They worked that way in SDR, and since tink's arrows are faster now (I think?) kirby's probably will be too.

 

[B.W.]

Link's arrows will probably be better since they're good gimping tools. Kirby already gimps. Now he can snipe too.

If they make Fire Emblem attacks bigger in comparison to Kirby (Hitbox being big enough to go over Kirby's head) those moves will probably be fairly good for him.

Other decent moves probably include Bowser Firebreath, DK Punch, Falco's and Wolf's lasers, Nayru's Love (decent OoS option), Needles, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Thunder Jolt, Water Gun maybe, Flamethrower, Plasma Cannon, Stun Gun, PK Flash, Light Arrows, Pikmin, Chef, Laser and grenades.

 

[Kally Wally]

Link's arrows will probably be better since they're good gimping tools. Kirby already gimps. Now he can snipe too.

If they make Fire Emblem attacks bigger in comparison to Kirby (Hitbox being big enough to go over Kirby's head) those moves will probably be fairly good for him.

Other decent moves probably include Bowser Firebreath, DK Punch, Falco's and Wolf's lasers, Nayru's Love (decent OoS option), Needles, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Thunder Jolt, Water Gun maybe, Flamethrower, Plasma Cannon, Stun Gun, PK Flash, Light Arrows, Pikmin, Chef, Laser and grenades.

Yo, real talk.

What if Kirby could Aura Sphere Cancel?

 

[Vickyboi]

Do you mean like needle cancel?
Because that's most likely going to work.

 

[Kally Wally]

Sort of. Lucario has his on-hit cancels, and he can cancel into Aura Sphere. By canceling into, and quickly out of, an Aura Sphere, he can act very quickly out of any attack.

Basically, what if Kirby could cancel into Aura Sphere, as well as out of it?

 

[Vickyboi]

I don't think it will work like that, It's probably just the projectile and not the OHC.
It would be pretty cool though, but that's what we have Turbo mode for!

 

[extremechiton]

kirby with offence up:
up smash:
f smash:
d smash:

idk

 

[Vickyboi]

Kirby gets a(1) solarbeam per swallow!

 

[extremechiton]

kirby with one solar beam is kinda lame. you cant do anything after you use it. you have to taunt to get rid of the power and then swallow again.

 

[Rizner]

kirby with one solar beam is kinda lame. you cant do anything after you use it. you have to taunt to get rid of the power and then swallow again.

But you don't have to charge it so you have it, and he can taunt cancel his power-losing taunt so it doesn't take too much to get rid of it

 

[skellitorman]

Just to reinforce what Rizner said. If you consider the time it takes for Ivysaur to get beam and compare it to the time it takes for Kirby to get beam, then clearly you can see that it is in Kirby's favor, unless its not practical to inhale Ivysaur in the first place. Furthermore after using beam it should easily result in a kill giving you plenty of time to discard the now useless hat. You can always taunt cancel if necessary.

 

[Ginge]

I've found that I can usually get off 3-5 solarbeams in the time it takes for someone to get one with Ivysaur. You'll never see me complain about that one

Lucas's copy ability is... well... acceptable.

Has anyone else found that Turbo Mode with Kirby is glorious for comboing into Inhale+Copy?

 

[BlueYoshi129]

Kirby gets PK Freeze.