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Jerome Ersland

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Alien Vision

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This link will provide you the information that you need to carry out this debate: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43710936/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001


The way I am going to structure this will allow us to see both sides clearly and to be able to discuss things without any misconceptions. What we are doing is seperating the real ''evidence'' from the information that can't be proven. The top part will be the ''evidence'' that supports the ethical proportions of this case. The bottom part will supply information that may not be in fact ''evidence'', but will serve as a catalyst for us to question the ethical foundation as it was presented. This is a group effort, and not just my voiced opinion. So if you have any ideas for either side, please apply them as shown. The two categories are: ''The Evidence'', and ''The Puzzle Pieces''. What you are doing is applying your own ''evidence'' you can blatantly see in this case, and your own personal opinion about it. We will debate on either side as we go along.

For an example - Say someone said ''This guy should've known what he was doing L0lol01!''. Then we may debate that we really don't know what was going through his head then. We really can't say **** because it's all hindsight now. Everything happened so fast, the adrenaline, a bunch of psychological factors, etc.

Now, I hope I stated all the information you need to carry this on. I started it off for you guys. Now it's your turn to add to the categories. Either one is fine.

The Evidence

1. Jerome shot Parker 5 more times while he was already lying on the floor with a bullet in his head.


The Puzzle Pieces​

1. The camera angle does not fully justify that Parker was indeed unconscious nor does it justify that Jerome could've thought Parker was reaching for a weapon causing him to react the way he did.
 

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This article explains a bit of what he's talking about: http://content.usatoday.com/communi...kla-pharmacist-for-killing-drugstore-robber/1

Alien Vision, next time you create you a thread you really have to provide some background information or no one is going to understand anything. If the title of the thread wasn't Jerome Ersland there'd be no where to even begin...

-blazed
I apologize. I purposely left out the background the way I did because I would be able to attract people who are actually serious about this, and not people looking for kicks and giggles. I won't make the same mistake again.
 

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He wants you to take the facts in hand, and use that to discuss the more lofty ideas listed below the fact sheet. At present there's not much to go on, but the discussion could for example be something along the lines of : is it morally permissible to execute a robber. If there is a perceived threat to life and limb, is it better to simply disable, or should one expect to be killed out right. Was he in the right state of mind to make this decision, and if not, does that absolve him of his actions? These sorts of things, I'd wager.
 

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I still don't get it. Are we supposed to be making up facts about the case?
What did I possibly leave out that made it where you couldn't understand what to do? What you are doing is adding pieces of information regarding this case, and putting them in there appropiate categories that I listed. I even started it off as an example.

Please tell me where I am not explaining enough information unintentionally.
 

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What did I possibly leave out that made it where you couldn't understand what to do? What you are doing is adding pieces of information regarding this case, and putting them in there appropiate categories that I listed. I even started it off as an example.

Please tell me where I am not explaining enough information unintentionally.
You provided a few peculiar pieces of information, but never asked any questions. As such no one really knows where to take the debate from here, or what the debate exactly is supposed to be about. Is it a moral one as sucumbio put it or are we just asking whether or not he is innocent? We don't know.

-blazed
 
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