Is this not better than Ledgedashing?

[Jacob29]

Seeing how you can act instantly out of a jump is this (look at exmaple) not faster compared to dropping back, jumping and then wavedashing onto the stage?

It's simply a jump followed by a wavedash as soon as you can.

You don't get as much horizontal because you can't perfect wavedash with this - but I think it might be safer (no sd's), easier, and MIGHT have more invincibility but I haven't tried via TAS.

Example: http://www.gfycat.com/ImpartialWhiteGosling

edit: I'm busted. I just suck at ledge dashing apparently.

Oh well, at least it is still useful for wding onto a platform.

 

[shairn]

No, it's not. For example, Marth's jump from ledge FAF is 12th frame while ledge dash is less than half of that I believe(Ledge drop and DJ can be executed in 2 frames, so you have a whopping 10 frames to get the height you want before airdodging into the stage and still be as fast as ledge jump waveland). Other characters follow a similar pattern. Moreover, above 100% jump from ledge FAF is 22nd frame which is significantly slower, while ledge dash is still as fast because ledge drop is instantaneous.

 

[Chesstiger2612]

It has less intangibility, but is good for characters with slow double jumps like Peach.

 

[Jacob29]

Alright well thanks for the frame info.

I guess I just suck at ledge dashing because it feels about the same speed.

 

[Chesstiger2612]

So it is very characterdependent but on average you should have around 5 frames more with standard ledgedashes.
Your method is also good though if you are out of ledge intangibility for whatever reason, because if you get hit out of ledgedashes you don't have your midair jump anymore, while if you do the ledgejump->waveland, you still have it. An important factor when you have to fear to get hit out of it.

 

[Sour Supreme]

RAMEN NOODLES!

 

[1FD]

@ Jacob29 do that with Bowser because his is so fast, and everyone that has DJC related ledge stuff like Peach/Ness and how they go down before up with their DJs, you can actually WL on the stage with them this way which they can't the other way.

 

[DrinkingFood]

Why the **** do we have to have the same goddamn threads repeated every week
Pretty sure this is the third time I've seen this

 

[Jacob29]

Oh really?

I did try a quick look but I had no idea what the hell to search for as it doesn't exactly have a name I could find.

@ Jacob29 do that with Bowser because his is so fast, and everyone that has DJC related ledge stuff like Peach/Ness and how they go down before up with their DJs, you can actually WL on the stage with them this way which they can't the other way.

Yeah I do do it with Bowser as I am aware he has the fastest jump from the ledge (I think)