Is constant shieldgrabbing a noob strategy?

[Quillion]

I hear a lot of people complaining about how good shield grabbing is, but in the tournament footage I've browsed, I fail to see it used a lot. I guess there was that one ditto with M2K and Nairo (iirc) that had a lot of grabbing, but that was chalked more up to the OP combo than anything.

 

[Ranias]

Competitive players are aware of shield grabbing, so they find ways to not get shield grabbed as much.

For example, you will likely not see many pro players aerial and land in front of a shield.

There is also often harder ways to punish than a grab.

 

[PSIBoy]

Constant shield grabbing would be punished by a smart player. If you keep falling for the same thing, it's your own fault.

 

[TimeSmash]

While shieldhrabbing in itself is not noobish, spamming it in every situation will not work as described above. Like anything else, shieldgrabbing can be baited and punished, so you're better off using it more sporadically. That is unless, you're playing someone who falls for it every time haha, but that's usually not the case

 

[Blablabug]

Nothing is really noobish, if you don't see something being used by the pro players it is only because they can't do it against a strong opponent. If they were against someone who is really easy to grab, they would grab him a lot, that's all !

 

[Raijinken]

If it works each time, then it's the other player that needs to step up their game.

If it fails often and you keep using it, then yes, it's a sign that your strategy is underdeveloped.

 

[Quillion]

While shieldgrabbing in itself is not noobish...

Yoshi and Bowser's respective Pit codecs encourage shield grabbing, though. It's supposed to be a basic strategy.

 

[Rajikaru]

Yoshi and Bowser's respective Pit codecs encourage shield grabbing, though. It's supposed to be a basic strategy.

No, the Bowser guidance says "Fight smart and look for chances to counterattack" verbatim, not even mentioning shield grabbing or grabbing for that matter, and the Yoshi guidance encourages shielding and grabbing when the Yoshi's using Egg Roll, which is the most effective strategy in such a situation (especially in online where attack timing can be screwy).

Shield Grabbing isn't "noobish" or anything like that, if it's effective for the person in question then it's effective, and if anybody wants to win against it they''ll have to suck it up because unless it's something that's considered universally over-powerful, nothing's going to change about it (unless a counter comes that beats it 100% of the time). The first tip I'd give (since I have to learn not how to just jump in front of an enemy and leave me wide open for a free grab myself) is to focus more on letting the enemy come to you and positioning yourself so when they approach you, you have the spacial advantage.

 

[Quillion]

No, the Bowser guidance says "Fight smart and look for chances to counterattack" verbatim, not even mentioning shield grabbing or grabbing for that matter, and the Yoshi guidance encourages shielding and grabbing when the Yoshi's using Egg Roll, which is the most effective strategy in such a situation (especially in online where attack timing can be screwy).

Shield Grabbing isn't "noobish" or anything like that, if it's effective for the person in question then it's effective, and if anybody wants to win against it they''ll have to suck it up because unless it's something that's considered universally over-powerful, nothing's going to change about it (unless a counter comes that beats it 100% of the time). The first tip I'd give (since I have to learn not how to just jump in front of an enemy and leave me wide open for a free grab myself) is to focus more on letting the enemy come to you and positioning yourself so when they approach you, you have the spacial advantage.

What happens if they don't come? Particularly when I'm not playing as a projectile user?

 

[Rajikaru]

What happens if they don't come? Particularly when I'm not playing as a projectile user?

You gotta pressure their shield then, or approach in unexpected ways. Some characters have airs that are good for approaching as they give enough space to not be shield-grabbed. Like I said, I do it myself, the whole "get really up close and end up grabbed" problem, so I still have to learn how to not do it too.